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Old 06-27-2003, 07:53 AM   #1
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What do you guys use for washing your Subies? I've seen recommendations for boar's hair brushes (expensive) to microfiber wash mits.

I'm also looking for a good washing cleaner, something that's easy on the wax but tough on the dirt/grime.
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Old 06-27-2003, 05:54 PM   #2
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im not too fond of those hair brushes as the particles tend to
stick inside the brush while you wash...but then again any
mitt or sponge does it too, i guess.

i only use a sponge to wash the car. no real swirl marks
as long as you wash top to bottom and clean the sponge
frequently. wheels should be done last or with another bucket
of solvent.

i use meguires goldclass wash. almost smells like a
ordinary shampoo for humans.
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Old 06-28-2003, 02:51 AM   #3
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I use JOY and a sponge to wash my car.
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Old 06-28-2003, 05:48 AM   #4
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I use JOY and a sponge to wash my car.
Wouldn't that remove your wax as well? I remember reading something about using dish detergent as a prep for washing/waxing the car. Can't be sure though.
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Old 06-28-2003, 07:29 AM   #5
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Dish detergent will strip all the wax and glaze (if you have any) off the car. If you guys are interested in having your car look the best, check out www.autopia.org

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Cleaning your car will become an obsession, but you will have the best looking ride in town.
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Old 06-28-2003, 07:32 AM   #6
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I use JOY and a sponge to wash my car.
HEY ME TOO!

then i wax
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Old 06-28-2003, 08:53 AM   #7
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What white 2.5 GT said is all true. I would like to add to it.

Washing your car with dawn will strip all of the old wax and hopefully most road contaminents off your car. A good method I use is use a pressure washer and go over all of the lower rocker panels before I wash it and that gets lots of the grime off.

As for what to wash it with. thats debatable with people but here are the reasons NOT to use a plain sponge. If you are washing you car with your sponge and you hit a piece of dirt or grit, the sponge is going to draggggg it along the surface and cause a much much higher chance of swirls. What you might not know is 90% of swirls are usually cause by washing and drying.

A seasponge is better for washing because it has big nooks and crannies to catch the dirt. But what I really reccomend are a 100% cotton chennelle wash mit or a microfiber wash mit. These mits catch thte dirt and pull it up, they have amuch much smaller chance of scratching your paint.

If you don't like a wash mit, then a chenele sponge might work, just remember it as to be 100% cotton, the way to tell is by burning 1 thread, if it burns black then it has polyster in it. If not then its 100% cotton, look for the little cotton tree.

As for drying you car, I suggest that you buy a waffle weave drying towel or two. That will make drying your car so much easier than it ever was before and you will introduce almost no scratches when drying you car.

Well thats all I got for now.

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Old 06-28-2003, 04:22 PM   #8
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Hmm... This is getting interesting. When using dish detergent to wash, is there any chance of messing up your paint? I've been looking for something to strip all the wax and whatnot I have on there so I can more effectively get to some light scratches that got waxed over. And also, is the Meguiar's gold class wash worth it over ordinary soaps? I already use their liquid clear coat, and I love it.
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Old 06-29-2003, 08:39 AM   #9
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Megs Gold Class is a good car wash once you alreayd have wax on your car. I could be wrong but I believe its a pretty sundsy shampoo and its pretty slick when you use it.

I use dawn to strip my paint every time I start over and have yet to see any problems from it. I know lots of other people who use dawn to strip thier wax as well.

Now using dish detergent to wash your car EVERY time is a bad thing.

Not only will you have no wax, but you will also have no protection from the dangerous UV rays that the sun puts out that fades your paint.
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Old 06-29-2003, 09:44 AM   #10
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I use Australian lamb's wool mit. I think it is even less abrasive than sponge. I use P21S Bodyworks or Liquid Glass car shampoo concentrate.
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Old 06-29-2003, 11:49 AM   #11
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I forgot to add about lambswool mitts. Those are also usually soft enough. I say usually because it all depends where you get it from. Pep Boys = NONO
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Old 06-29-2003, 05:06 PM   #12
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What's wrong with the pep boys mitt? Is their lambswool mitt gonna damage my car? I just bought one and am wondering if I should return...
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Old 06-29-2003, 05:32 PM   #13
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I use a leaf blower to dry my car.


Just kidding.
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Old 06-29-2003, 06:15 PM   #14
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What's wrong with the pep boys mitt? Is their lambswool mitt gonna damage my car? I just bought one and am wondering if I should return...
Generally Pep boys sells low quality cleaning supplies made by either turtle Wax or detailers choice. Most of thier products are not soft or gentle enough for the sensitive clearcoat of a car. If many of you have not realized how sensitive a clearcoat is, you surely will after paying close attention while washing your car.

I suggest 100% cotton mitts made by viking (hard to find they have a blue cuff) or any of the wash mitts sold by autopia (www.autopia.org) or CMA (www.properautocare.com)

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Old 06-29-2003, 06:18 PM   #15
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I use a leaf blower to dry my car.


Just kidding.
Its funny that you say that. I indeed do use a leafblower to dry my car after it has been waxed. Using a gas leaf blowed could potentially cause problems because it can suck up some ugly things. But using the blower part of my blowervac works great. It has a small filter on it and doesnt let any large particles pass through.


Once you have a good wax on your car the best way to dry it is to take off whatever you have on the end of the hose and let a light stream of water drip down on the car, this will allow the major amounts of water to bead up and drop off your car. After you go over the whole car like this (top down) you should use the leaf blower to blow out all the crevaces or just use a waffle weave drying microfiber towel to dry the rest of your car.

Any more questions ill try to answer what I know.
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Old 06-29-2003, 08:42 PM   #16
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Ill tell you what, I use blue corral wash and wax and my car looks excellent. That stuff really brings out the shine. It is a little expensive but nice looking.

Whoops I just washed my car and used a sponge. I hope i dont scratch it.
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Old 06-29-2003, 09:53 PM   #17
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I use Zaino polish, car wash, quick detailer, leather products, and tire cleaner. The Zaino polish is like nothing I have ever used, amazing.

I use Griot's Garage window cleaner, paint cleaning clay, and 100% cotton towels for wash, dry, and buff.

Meg Gold Class for the quick wash since it's cheap (relatively).

All this done by hand, I've tried the random orbital buffer but it was too much extra work. I've also tried so many different combinations, this is the best I've found so far.
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Where can one purchase this Zaino stuff?
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Old 06-30-2003, 05:00 AM   #19
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Where can one purchase this Zaino stuff?
www.zainostore.com
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Old 06-30-2003, 08:47 AM   #20
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You guys aren't really being serious about using dish detergent on your car are you? Not only will it strip the wax from the paint, it also with strip the natural oils from the paint that protect it and keep it looking shiney. Even washing the car once with dish detergent can do permanent damage.

You should only use a cleaner specifically designed for car paints.
www.griotsgarage.com is an excellent place for information and supplies. The Mequiars Gold Class line of products are great as well.
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Old 06-30-2003, 09:13 AM   #21
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i would probably trust the professionals at Zaino on this ..

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3. I would definitely recommend you remove the wax buildup on your paint. Just use Liquid Dawn (hand dishwashing liquid) as a car wash. It has a high alkaline content which cuts right thru carnauba wax, paraffin, silicone oils, etc. This will get your paint finish squeeky clean and wax free.

I don't advise making a habit of washing your car with Dawn. But for this scenario it's fine. High alkaline products like Dawn are tough on polishes. It will never harm the paint finish though. A car wash is made specifically to clean without removing durable polishes. ALSO, Make sure you remove any water spots, before you apply my products. Because Zaino has no abrasives or harsh solvents it will not remove water spots or stains. Z-18 ClayBar is great for removing any paint surface contaminants. Re-wash the entire vehicle with Z-7 Car Wash immediately after the ClayBar
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Old 06-30-2003, 02:30 PM   #22
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I do seriously wash my car with dish washing detergent probably once a month for like 2 and half years now. The paint is still all good except for like the minor dents/dings and chips from daily use.

I polish and wax my car once a month now but when the car was new I would be polishing and waxing it every weekend.

But there are some good tips in this thread which I'm gonna try out next time... Like using that leaf blower. I never thought about using something like that.
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Old 06-30-2003, 05:22 PM   #23
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Dawn is high in alkaline content and washing your car frequently with dawn could be damaging to your paint. But every so often is not really bad for your paint.

The theory that your paint has natural oils is a little off. Most all cars nowadays have clearcoats on them which do not contain natural oils, the clearcoat albeit is porous just like anything in the world but a dawn wash wont kill it.

If you are really worried about dawn hurting your car you can use AutoInts ABC process.

What it is in the A is an acid neutralizer, aka a strong alkaline car wash that gets rid of all the wax and all of the other harsh chemicals on your car. The B is an Alkaline Neutrlizer and balences out the Alkaline wash you just did on your car as well as getting rid of some fallout and the C is the final step in PH neutralization which equals out the finish to an even ph of 7. this of course takes 3 washes (the second 2 will be alot quicker since there shouldnt be any dirt) but it will guarentee your paint is ph balenced.

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Old 06-30-2003, 05:34 PM   #24
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Does anyone ever use the do-it-yourself spray wash services and commercial car wash stations? I travel a lot and would like to keep my XT looking nice on the road so I'm wondering if these places do a safe job of cleaning the dirt/grime off the exterior. I'm talking about the places that you throw a few bucks in the slot and use a high-powered hose to suds up and car and rinse it away.
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Does anyone ever use the do-it-yourself spray wash services and commercial car wash stations? I travel a lot and would like to keep my XT looking nice on the road so I'm wondering if these places do a safe job of cleaning the dirt/grime off the exterior. I'm talking about the places that you throw a few bucks in the slot and use a high-powered hose to suds up and car and rinse it away.
I use them every once in a while, but i NEVER use that foaming brush contraption. I remember once when i pulled through the car wash, and in the stall next to me was a guy who had a Jeep Wrangler and he was using the foaming brush. His Jeep was all jacked up nice and high, and he had mud caked all over it. When i walked by to get some quarters, i spotted the guy using it on the undercarriage of his Jeep. I would not want to be the next guy to use that brush.
Basically you never know what people do with those brushes. Its a public facility, so i guess it basically comes down to the question, would you let a comeplete stranger wash your car?

Oh, and stay away from those drive thru machine automated car washes....they suck a$$.
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