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Old 06-30-2003, 09:45 AM   #1
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How do I remove the front door speakers in my 97 legacy gt? These are 6 inch speakers, correct?

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Old 06-30-2003, 09:50 AM   #2
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6.5" is what I replaced them with, but dual-mount 6" speakers would probably work. Just pull the panel, unscrew the old, screw in the new. If youve done speaker installs before it should be no probs at all.

On a related note, buy the oem tweeter kit for the tops of the doors if you dont have them, it really improves imaging and highs.

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Old 06-30-2003, 10:55 AM   #3
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Need to keep in mind though, that there isn't much depth in the doors. A lot of decent speakers are much deeper than the stockers, so you'll probably have to add a spacer/baffle to make it work.

I *thought* it was deep enough when I looked down there, and saw about 1/4" away from the window(down). I was wrong, and it smacked the speaker when I tried to put the window up.. so I had to take the speaker out at that point. Just stuff to keep in mind.
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Old 06-30-2003, 11:22 AM   #4
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So does the plastic panel over the speaker just pop off? I tried prying at it a little bit yesterday, but didn't want to break anything. I plan to do a 6.5/5.25/Tweeter component set once I have enough cash to get some kickpanels made, but for now I am just going to use some Polk DB 5.25s in the doors. I figure I am going to have to make a ring to fit them into the 6.5 hole, and if needed, I'll make the ring thick enough to act as a spacer.

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Old 06-30-2003, 01:55 PM   #5
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The vented panels over the speakers in the front doors do not come off. You will need to remove the entire door panel. Not as difficult as it may sound.
You need to remove a few fasteners: one screw in the door release handle area and another in the pull handle area (they both have little plastic tabs over them that you will need to pry off before removal. There is also a plastic fastener about half way up on the forward border of the door panel that you will need to pry out.
Then you can start to pry off the door panel. There are several plastic compliant fasteners (attached to the panel) that hold the panel on. Just start at the lower aft corner of the door and pull around the perimeter of the panel.
Once you get the panel off there will be two wire connectors that connect wires from the door panel to the door frame you'll have to disconnect: one for the power window switches and one for the door locks. There are small tabs on each one you'll have to push to disconnect them.

When you re-install the door panel I have found that it helps to start by putting the door release pull handle through its hole and then place the top of the panel (where the window comes out) first. Then just pound lightly with your hand around the perimeter to re-insert the compliant fasteners...

Sorry if that's more detail than you needed. There is plenty of door speaker install info in the Audio Forum.

You will most likely have to make a spacer since the stock speakers are not too deep. I made mine with a jig saw and some 3/4" MDF.

I read a post in the Audio Forum a while ago where some guy used a ring from a gallon paint can as the spacer for the new speakers. It's plastic and used on cans in shipment to keep them from opening. Just the right size for door speakers. You might want to see if that would work for you before making some other spacers. That's what took me the most time in my door speaker install!
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Old 06-30-2003, 02:01 PM   #6
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What kind of speakers did you end up putting in your doors?

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Old 06-30-2003, 02:22 PM   #7
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I put in some 6.5" MB Quartz midranges and tweeters. They're about 3 or 4 years old but still much better than the stock speakers! There were some little generic crossovers that came with them and I just mounted them inside the door panel with some velcro. Velcro and duct tape - essential toolkit supplies!

I agree with the suggestion to buy the OEM twweter kit that goes in the upper front corner of the door! I love mine. But buy some upgraded tweets. They're inexpensive and make a big difference.
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Old 06-30-2003, 03:22 PM   #8
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Where do you get the OEM tweeter kit, and what exactly is included in it?

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Old 06-30-2003, 03:49 PM   #9
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Old 06-30-2003, 04:06 PM   #10
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Where do you get the OEM tweeter kit, and what exactly is included in it?

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Look at the place Suby Gal works at. I just picked some up last Friday for $15. She said they had 2 left when I ordered mine. They should have 1 left.

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Old 07-01-2003, 09:38 AM   #11
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I already own a set of nice tweeters, would the tweeter kit allow me to install my own tweeters in that location?

Thanks for all of the help,
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Also, any ideas of where I could put the 4 inch midrange driver, if I did infact put my tweeters high on the door, and the 6.5 inch midbass in the stock door location? Is there anywhere on the door that would allow me to just cut the needed hole in the door panel and put the 4inch up close to the tweeter?

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Old 07-01-2003, 11:09 AM   #12
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I already own a set of nice tweeters, would the tweeter kit allow me to install my own tweeters in that location?

Thanks for all of the help,
Brendan

Also, any ideas of where I could put the 4 inch midrange driver, if I did infact put my tweeters high on the door, and the 6.5 inch midbass in the stock door location? Is there anywhere on the door that would allow me to just cut the needed hole in the door panel and put the 4inch up close to the tweeter?

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I know of at least one other person who has put aftermarket tweeters in the oem kit frame. I think if the tweeter is reasonably sized it should be doable.

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There is 1 or 2 small plastic pieces you break off, then a good tweeter will fit fine. Mine are hot glued in at the moment.. easy mods to the piece to make things fit. Very easy.
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Old 07-01-2003, 05:41 PM   #14
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When I bought my 1998 Outback, I changed out the stock stereo. I had trouble with the front door panels though. Particulary the odd way that the top front edge had to be slid in and clipped onto the door. It was pretty easy to remove, but a real pain in the a$$ to reattach the panel! It wasn't until I finished that I thought that maybe removing the plate around the side view mirrors might have helped. Didn't go back there though, for fear of really screwing things up!. Anyone else experience this problem?
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Old 07-01-2003, 06:11 PM   #15
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When I bought my 1998 Outback, I changed out the stock stereo. I had trouble with the front door panels though. Particulary the odd way that the top front edge had to be slid in and clipped onto the door. It was pretty easy to remove, but a real pain in the a$$ to reattach the panel! It wasn't until I finished that I thought that maybe removing the plate around the side view mirrors might have helped. Didn't go back there though, for fear of really screwing things up!. Anyone else experience this problem?
I didnt experience this prob, but I removed the sail panel covers from the outset cuase I was adding tweeters anyway. They just pull right out. The only prob I had was finaggeling the door panel back over the door latch and sliding it down at the same time. I found coming down at kinda an angle worked ok.

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I didnt experience this prob, but I removed the sail panel covers from the outset cuase I was adding tweeters anyway. They just pull right out. The only prob I had was finaggeling the door panel back over the door latch and sliding it down at the same time. I found coming down at kinda an angle worked ok.

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You need to slide the handle in, pop the front of the panel up and over the top(drop the back a bit), then slide the back on up. Done in order, and it's not too hard. And yes, always take the sail covers off. Life is too hard of you don't..
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Has anyone looked around on the door with the panel off to find a location suitable for the 4inch midrange in a 3 way component set?

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"Sail Panels" such a descriptive word! Much better than "plates that cover the side view mirrors".

I feel like such a noob!
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this is my install, used a dremmil with a drill bit on the end.

had to make 3/4 inch spaces to get the woofers to not hit the back side of the door.
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Has anyone looked around on the door with the panel off to find a location suitable for the 4inch midrange in a 3 way component set?

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Well, you will need to cut something regardless of where you put it. I'd suggest putting them slightly about the 6.5s in the lower part of the door. I can't remember exactly how it is layed out behind the panel, but if you put them in the.. umm.. there are 2 pieces to the panel, the lower part(has the speaker grill and door pocket in it), the major panel, and the 'middle' panel(the piece with the fabric on it there goes above the armrest, forward and down).. if you mounted it to that, you could always swap that out if needbe later. If that made sense..
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so I'm wanting to upgrade all the speakers in my front and rear doors. Can anyone recommend a good group of speakers to use? Can I use the stock wiring?

I'd like good overall sound, not the jimmy-G-money base overkill sound.

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Stock wiring is fine. Are you just replacing the speakers? Or are you going to amp it too? And what kind of budget are we talking here?

Also, do you often have people in the back seat? If not, I'd suggest putting more money into a good set of fronts, and ditch the rears. They aren't really needed, especially with them being so low in the doors. They do NOT help much at all.
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so I'm wanting to upgrade all the speakers in my front and rear doors. Can anyone recommend a good group of speakers to use? Can I use the stock wiring?

I'd like good overall sound, not the jimmy-G-money base overkill sound.

thx.

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Ive got Polk DXs in my Legacy but I dont know how they rank nowadays. I have also had MB Quarts and ADSs which are also nice and clean.

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Stock wiring is fine. Are you just replacing the speakers? Or are you going to amp it too? And what kind of budget are we talking here?

Also, do you often have people in the back seat? If not, I'd suggest putting more money into a good set of fronts, and ditch the rears. They aren't really needed, especially with them being so low in the doors. They do NOT help much at all.
Not sure how much I want to spend yet. I was thinking of getting a 1 DIN DVD player and a mattjk double DIN LCD screen and building a system around that. I'm going to look at wether it's possible to mount the DVD/CD unit in an impreza 1 DIN housing... like this:



Only I'd like to try it in my Legacy

Not sure what head unit I'd go for yet. But as I've been thinking about this I've thought that I definitely would need to upgrade all other components of the system, so I'm just doing some research.

hence the speaker question.
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