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Old 07-01-2003, 12:21 PM   #1
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Default clay bar v. polishing compound

so wha's the difference between clay barring before waxing, or polishing compound before waxing?

i've always thought they were meant to do the same thing, which is to remove the old wax and and dirt u couldn't get to during the washing phase?

so is there a difference, if so, wha's the difference & which do u prefer?
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Old 07-01-2003, 01:10 PM   #2
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claybar will not sand the surface but pick up gunk from the surface as polish or compound will take a very thin coat off the clearcoat. its like a very mild wetsand.
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Old 07-01-2003, 01:15 PM   #3
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Always clay before polishing. If you don't, you may damage your finish with the dirt that is imbedded into the paint.

Clay: used to remove microcontaminants that are imbedded in the paint. I usually clay right after washing the car, and right before drying it, while the car is still soapy and wet. Reapply hose as needed.

Compound: used to remove swirling and minor scratches from the surface of paint. Use after surface has been cleaned with clay. You should be careful with compound, as it will take off some clearcoat to even out the surface.

I detailed my friend's black 1994 Acura Integra yesterday and we had EIGHT exterior steps:

1. Wash (Meguiar's Gold Class shampoo)
2. Clay (Clay Magic)
3. Dry (Microfiber drying towels)
4. Polish (3M Swirl Mark Remover for dark cars)
5. Paint cleaner/oxidation remover (Klasse All-In-One)
6. Sealant (Klasse Sealant Glaze)
7. Wax (S100)
8. Final detail (Mother's Showtime quick detailer + microfiber towel)
Total time: 5.5 hours


His paint should be protected for about 6-12 months, due to the Klasse component. We did not use compound, even though his paint had significant swirling, and the car had never been buffed. When we were finished, his swirling was reduced by about 80-90%.

If you don't know how to use compound, you really shouldn't use it, as it can really damage your car's finish.

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Old 07-01-2003, 05:41 PM   #4
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DO NOT use a rubbing compound on your car's finish. Most compounds are similar to wet sanding and will leave you with the same results. Clay is perfect for removing surface contaminants without harming your clearcoat. There are plenty of "clearcoat safe" polishes on the market that will remove swirls or minor scratches without damaging your finish. If your paint is beyond the help of these products, then I would seek professional assistance from a reputable detailer.

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Old 07-01-2003, 05:49 PM   #5
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Are you supposed to wash the car with soap and water again after the clay process? Thanks!
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Old 07-01-2003, 05:55 PM   #6
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Are you supposed to wash the car with soap and water again after the clay process? Thanks!
I can usually just rinse the car off with water, as the soap is still on the car the way I do it. If you use the clay lube, you may or may not be able to get away just rinsing with water... depends on the lube.

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