SVX problem.

pfobrien · 03-14-2001, 01:43 PM

My son's svx has his 92svx at bell subaru (Rahway, NJ) for about 3 weeks. They can get it started but the car dies after a few seconds. AFter that it's difficult to restart.
The tech's have no clue what's wrong.

The service manager states: "This is a new subaru franchise and we have no svx experience"
I realize that it's a vague and broad question, but any help would be appreciated.

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KEVINL · 03-14-2001, 02:52 PM

It could be The IAC or Idle Air controll valve but I don't know if that causes it to be hard to start. But that will definantly cause it to stall

arejay · 03-15-2001, 11:46 AM

Thanks to SJLWEL from the Yahoo club.

From “General Troubleshooting Table,” page. 113 Vol. ?, SM.
Engine stalls after initial Combustion: Probable causes listed in order of priority:

1. ECU power supply
2. Air flow sensor
3. By=pass air control solenoid valve
4. Auxiliary air control valve
5. Fuel Pump
6. Pressure regulator
7. Fuel injector
8. Water temperature sensor
9. Throttle sensor
10.Crank angle sensor 1
11.Crank angle sensor 2
12.Cam angle sensor
13.Ignitor
14.Ignition coil
15.Spark plug

arejay · 03-15-2001, 11:58 AM

Thanks to eddycat2000 (Subaru Senior Master Technician) from the Yahoo Club.

<>

Yeah, tell him it's a car. It needs fuel, spark, compression and air to run. And if he can't find a tech that
can make it run, he's going to have a hard time keeping customers. Put a fuel gauge on it, hook up the
select monitor and find out what's going on. It might take some time to figure out, but it should be fairly
straight forward. Man I just do not understand where these people come from.

pfobrien · 03-15-2001, 02:14 PM

Thanks > KL AJ & CW
I appreciate all the advice.
kvn will be moving it to another dealer with experience next week.

I bought my MY00 2.5 from bell a year ago, so I'm concerned for my suby down the road as well.

Just spoke to kvn, he's thinking of the Flemington NJ dealer.

arejay · 03-15-2001, 10:55 PM

Okay, here's an interesting one. Compliments of Morlbnr of the Yahoo club:

Before any of the other steps, I would ask one question - When did this problem start? Did it start this fall?

The reason I ask this is I began having a starting problem last Fall. Never had it before. After the car spent a LOT of time at the local mechanic and then the dealer, who could not fix it, I got it back and "dealt" with it. When March came along, the problem went away. Then the "light" went on. Here in NJ they switch to a different (oxygenated)fuel in November and then back again March 1. The first time I filled the tank after March 1 the problem vanished and the car now starts first time, everytime again.

I don't know why it started to happen this year and not last year. Further, I don't know what I will do next year.

arejay · 03-16-2001, 12:01 AM

If the tech needs to see an actual trouble shooting chart, tell him he can go here. I scanned it from the manual.
http://ia.yimg.com/3/65d42580/h/db4fee4c/Engcomp.jpg

cwhalgren · 03-16-2001, 12:52 AM

I just said the same thing in kvnobrien's post, but you should really consider taking / having the car moved to a different dealer. These guys at Bell sound pretty incompetent, and I'd be worried what they'll do to the car in an attempt to 'fix' it.

BTW, they don't deserve your business. Let someone with better customer service than that earn your money.

03-14-2001, 01:43 PM	#1
pfobrien Scooby Newbie Member#: 950 Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Spotswood, NJ USA Vehicle: '00 RS2.5 Coupe Sedona Red Pearl	SVX problem. My son's svx has his 92svx at bell subaru (Rahway, NJ) for about 3 weeks. They can get it started but the car dies after a few seconds. AFter that it's difficult to restart. The tech's have no clue what's wrong. The service manager states: "This is a new subaru franchise and we have no svx experience" I realize that it's a vague and broad question, but any help would be appreciated. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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03-14-2001, 02:52 PM	#2
KEVINL Scooby Newbie Member#: 3525 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Prescott Az Vehicle: 2004 Duramax W/500HP And Want another STi	It could be The IAC or Idle Air controll valve but I don't know if that causes it to be hard to start. But that will definantly cause it to stall

03-15-2001, 11:46 AM	#3
arejay Scooby Newbie Member#: 1916 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Owensboro, KY	Thanks to SJLWEL from the Yahoo club. From “General Troubleshooting Table,” page. 113 Vol. ?, SM. Engine stalls after initial Combustion: Probable causes listed in order of priority: 1. ECU power supply 2. Air flow sensor 3. By=pass air control solenoid valve 4. Auxiliary air control valve 5. Fuel Pump 6. Pressure regulator 7. Fuel injector 8. Water temperature sensor 9. Throttle sensor 10.Crank angle sensor 1 11.Crank angle sensor 2 12.Cam angle sensor 13.Ignitor 14.Ignition coil 15.Spark plug

03-15-2001, 11:58 AM	#4
arejay Scooby Newbie Member#: 1916 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Owensboro, KY	Thanks to eddycat2000 (Subaru Senior Master Technician) from the Yahoo Club. <> Yeah, tell him it's a car. It needs fuel, spark, compression and air to run. And if he can't find a tech that can make it run, he's going to have a hard time keeping customers. Put a fuel gauge on it, hook up the select monitor and find out what's going on. It might take some time to figure out, but it should be fairly straight forward. Man I just do not understand where these people come from.

03-15-2001, 02:14 PM	#5
pfobrien Scooby Newbie Member#: 950 Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Spotswood, NJ USA Vehicle: '00 RS2.5 Coupe Sedona Red Pearl	Thanks > KL AJ & CW I appreciate all the advice. kvn will be moving it to another dealer with experience next week. I bought my MY00 2.5 from bell a year ago, so I'm concerned for my suby down the road as well. Just spoke to kvn, he's thinking of the Flemington NJ dealer.

03-15-2001, 10:55 PM	#6
arejay Scooby Newbie Member#: 1916 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Owensboro, KY	Okay, here's an interesting one. Compliments of Morlbnr of the Yahoo club: Before any of the other steps, I would ask one question - When did this problem start? Did it start this fall? The reason I ask this is I began having a starting problem last Fall. Never had it before. After the car spent a LOT of time at the local mechanic and then the dealer, who could not fix it, I got it back and "dealt" with it. When March came along, the problem went away. Then the "light" went on. Here in NJ they switch to a different (oxygenated)fuel in November and then back again March 1. The first time I filled the tank after March 1 the problem vanished and the car now starts first time, everytime again. I don't know why it started to happen this year and not last year. Further, I don't know what I will do next year.

03-16-2001, 12:01 AM	#7
arejay Scooby Newbie Member#: 1916 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Owensboro, KY	If the tech needs to see an actual trouble shooting chart, tell him he can go here. I scanned it from the manual. http://ia.yimg.com/3/65d42580/h/db4fee4c/Engcomp.jpg

03-16-2001, 12:52 AM	#8
cwhalgren Scooby Specialist Member#: 1874 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Rockaway, NJ Vehicle: 2007 WRB Sports XT	I just said the same thing in kvnobrien's post, but you should really consider taking / having the car moved to a different dealer. These guys at Bell sound pretty incompetent, and I'd be worried what they'll do to the car in an attempt to 'fix' it. BTW, they don't deserve your business. Let someone with better customer service than that earn your money.