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Old 07-08-2003, 11:24 PM   #1
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Question Want to lower the front end. Advice?

I want to slightly lower the front end of my STi. Anyone got advice for me? What is the best way to lower it and have the least negative effect on ride/handling? Does anyone sell a kit/parts for this already?
I think the rear of the car is fine, but the front needs to be dropped a little.

(now putting on the flame-retardant jacket.........)
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Old 07-09-2003, 01:32 AM   #2
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Lowering the front relative to the rear is definitely going to have a detrimental effect on your handling.
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Old 07-09-2003, 01:39 AM   #3
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Have you put dubs on your STI yet?

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Old 07-09-2003, 02:01 AM   #4
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14 inch rims should help.
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Old 07-09-2003, 08:34 AM   #5
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Let the air out of your front tires.
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Old 07-09-2003, 08:38 AM   #6
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Put more air in the back tires.
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Old 07-09-2003, 08:52 AM   #7
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Raise the rear end
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Old 07-09-2003, 09:08 AM   #8
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Apologies for the serious post, but the front is supposed to look higher than the rear. It's not really, it's just that the fenders flare more in the front than in the rear.

It's part of the Subaru "look", so just enjoy your car's huge amounts of suspension travel, rather than screwing up your STi's handling to try to fix it
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Old 07-09-2003, 10:04 AM   #9
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make your friend grap on your front tired




but really, on any stock subaru, the front sits higher than the rear from the factory... for a reason... if you drop the front, you need to drop the rear as well...
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Old 07-09-2003, 10:51 AM   #10
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Most aftermarket lowering springs for the wrx tend to lower it more in the front than in the rear. I have my coilovers height set for a 2" drop in the front, and 1.5" in the rear - and my car handles better than an sti. So there is no reason the car can't have the front dropped more.

Prodrive wrx springs tend to lower the car much more in the front, there will be a very small drop in the back. I would think that they would also be a good match in spring rates, very similar to stock sti. Or you can wait for a prodrive sti spring, or any other aftermarket spring, or just get coilovers.

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Old 07-09-2003, 12:38 PM   #11
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Being new to the Subaru WRX/STi ownership circle, I know I have a lot to learn so bear with me.

It would seem that there are some STi lowering springs available from Japan which are designed to fit and work with our '04 STi's (i.e., spring rates are supposedly compatible with stock STi shock/strut dampening). I've been told these springs will only slightly lower the car -- about 20mm front and rear. They are even the correct color.

Any thoughts/input on the use of these springs would be appreciated. Does anyone know if the ROW (Rest of the World)STi's have a lower stock ride height than the US cars, as is the case with most German made cars?

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Old 07-09-2003, 12:42 PM   #12
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If your gonna lower, I would go with the JDM OEM Lowering springs...
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Old 07-09-2003, 02:23 PM   #13
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no, no, no the STi springs do no offer any noticeable drop nor leveling.

For the leveling loks and minimum drop wait for the Eibach springs, they are already working on them as per their website.

For a good moderate drop cutting that NASTY TIRE GAP and leveling definitely wait for the PRODRIVE springs for the STi.
(This is my CHOICE, however no news on when will they release such a product for the STi)

For an even more aggresive drop just wait for the TEINS.
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Old 07-10-2003, 07:04 PM   #14
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Quote:
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no, no, no the STi springs do no offer any noticeable drop nor leveling.
The black stock springs do not. The pink aftermarket ones (shown above) do lower but I believe that they lower an equal amount front and rear. Springs for the 02/03 WRX will not work on the STi unless you replace the rear strut tops.
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Old 07-10-2003, 08:22 PM   #15
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There are currently no springs in Japan for the revised GDB, which is what your chassis code.

For any springs for your STi, from Eibach, to H&R, to STi and others, you will need to purchase the springs, as well as the rear upper mounts for an '02-'03 WRX (you can either get the stock OEM mounts, or the STi Group N units). this will allow you to use any of the springs for the '02-'03 WRX all of which would work nicely with the struts in your STi from the factory.
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Old 07-10-2003, 10:13 PM   #16
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Will any of the high end coilovers(JIC, TEIN, DMS, HKS, APEXi, etc...) currently on sale for the WRX work on the STi?

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Old 07-10-2003, 10:35 PM   #17
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Yes, but you'll probably have to use old style top mounts in the rear if the coilovers don't come with their own.
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Old 07-11-2003, 01:16 AM   #18
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Correct - anycoilvoer that includes rear upper mounts (ie camber plates or pillowball mounts) will work great!
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Old 07-11-2003, 01:24 AM   #19
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Hey, back off, folks!

It's his car; he can ruin it any way he wants. If he values looks over performance -- forgetting for the moment that most "looks" have their roots in performance -- well, have a rice day.

Personally, I'd opt for green and orange hubcaps that spin and have neon -- less of a performance hit.

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Old 07-11-2003, 02:07 AM   #20
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Quote:
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no, no, no the STi springs do no offer any noticeable drop nor leveling.
I have a 2002 WRX with STi struts and STi lowering springs (pictured above). My car dropped about 1" front and rear and now sits to my liking. The front is still higher than the rear, but it's bearable to look at now.

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Old 07-11-2003, 02:25 AM   #21
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Our customers have installed successfully the Tein Flex system with EDFC for the 02-03 WRX, and just like mentioned previously, since these dampers include new topmounts the fitments is great.

Other customers have installed the H and R system. Although this system does not include top mounts, STi top mounts from 02-03 quickly remedy the problem and our customer is reporting that he is thrilled with his set up.

Finally a customer installed a set of Cusco Zero 2's and they work great as well. All of these are great options.

As a side note, although a system with height adjustability will allow you the opportunity to lower the vehicle in the front more than an in the rear to eliminate wheel gap, this will have adverse effects on handling. Even with a height adjustable system you want to make sure that you lower all four corners the same, therefore the front will always look higher than the front to a degree.

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Old 07-11-2003, 02:32 AM   #22
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Thanks for the good Tein info WorldOne! I got a question, what are the main differences between the Tein SS coilovers and the Tein FLEX coilovers? Also, do the SS's come with topmounts as well?

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Old 07-11-2003, 02:36 AM   #23
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boost fluid or muffler bearings should do it.
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Old 07-11-2003, 11:30 AM   #24
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The SS and Flex both include pillowball upper mounts front and rear for the WRX, and they are both camber adjustable in the front (for rear camber, we supply camber bolts for all coilover purchases). Both are also 16 way dampening adjustable, and both can accept the EDFC module for allowing dampening adjustment from inside the car. The Flex has an adjustable lower bracket, which basically allows you to do your main rideheight adjustments by adjusting the length of the strut body itself. This allows you to adjust rideheight, keep spring preload at a minimum, and also not affect the stroke (or travel) of the shock.

The SS is the replacement for the HA. While it has pillowball mounts front and rear, you can only adjust rideheight by adjusting preload the spring (via the lower spring perch). So, as you lower the car you are also reducing suspension travel. For a car that is mainly street driven, with occassional autocross or track use, the SS is more than enough. Nicest feature about it IMHO is that the pillowball mounts do not seem to suffer from the same knocking noise as the Flex's tend to when installed on a WRX (Will - if you are new to these forums, just do a search for "clunk Tein and Flex" in the suspension forum...it has been discussed to death, and is basically an issue with the bearing tolerances in the rear mount of the Flex). Its basically a crap shoot with the Flex, as 50% of the installs we do get it, 50% don't. By comarison, I have yet to install an SS on a WRX that had any clunk whatsoever..same goes for the RA (also Tein), as well as the JIC FLTA2 and Cusco Zero 2's.

Other units worthy of consideration, depending on your budget, are the Tanabe's (they have a good set of offerings, and very capable, adjustable units), as well as HKS (easily the most adjustable, but at the higher end of the price spectrum), as well as Zeal.

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