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Old 07-09-2003, 01:21 PM   #1
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Old 07-09-2003, 02:04 PM   #2
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My gosh, I wouldn't have thought 18's would look so perfect. Have you lowered it at all? What size tires? Looks fantastic.

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Old 07-09-2003, 02:22 PM   #3
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looks damn good. wish i had gone with 18's now.
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Old 07-09-2003, 02:49 PM   #4
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It's unlowered, although in the picture the car is on a little slope and there's 170 pounds of factory wheels & tires in the back. On level ground, it does look a bit lifted, but I'll leave it that way because it's the family car and the front spoiler already gets scraped up on local curbs and stuff.

I really like the way it looks! Most people have commented that they look like they could be a factory rim.

Tires are 215/40R18. I'd love to have gone with 225's, but the wheel wells are too tight (it would probably rub the fenders).

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Old 07-09-2003, 02:52 PM   #5
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It's unlowered, although in the picture the car is on a little slope and there's 170 pounds of factory wheels & tires in the back. On level ground, it does look a bit lifted, but I'll leave it that way because it's the family car and the front spoiler already gets scraped up on local curbs and stuff.

I really like the way it looks! Most people have commented that they look like they could be a factory rim.

Tires are 215/40R18. I'd love to have gone with 225's, but the wheel wells are too tight (it would probably rub the fenders).

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Would they (the 225's) have rubbed the strut, could you tell? Particularly in the back?

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Old 07-09-2003, 02:52 PM   #6
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Wow, that looks like a jdm version of Legacy, except the clear tails.
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Old 07-09-2003, 03:18 PM   #7
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Damn nice! The 18's are a perfect fit and have a factory look to 'em. Nice work!

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Old 07-09-2003, 03:24 PM   #8
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Would they (the 225's) have rubbed the strut, could you tell? Particularly in the back?
It would sure be close. As it is, I can barely fit my middle finger between the tire and the strut.

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Old 07-09-2003, 04:29 PM   #9
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very nice Dan! I'll show our customers yours so they could set up
a wish list...
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Old 07-09-2003, 06:21 PM   #10
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very nice Dan! I'll show our customers yours so they could set up a wish list...
Thanks, Henry!

You'll be bringing us a turbo Legacy in the spring, right?

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Old 07-09-2003, 07:20 PM   #11
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That looks nice. jdm tails and some tint would go a long way also.

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Old 07-09-2003, 09:52 PM   #12
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I would think 225's would fit on the strut side; I'm running 225/50/16 Ecsta 712's (more sidewall bulge, lower on the strut, and thicker OB struts) with no rubbing whatsoever; fwiw, I have more tire/strut clearance than I had with the stock 205/70/15's (which actually rubbed on the struts over bumps.)

The fenders are a whole different story, I suppose, though I had my wagon totally loaded down (1/2 finger gap in the rear) and didn't rub, even over speed bumps and hard cornering (people I was with said my rim was disappearing inside the fender), so I'd assume that if it wouldn't rub under those conditions, with .5 negative camber in back, a lowered GT with -1 or so would have absolutely no problems....

That looks absolutely beautiful, any more info on the rims? (weight, width, offset, general price, availability?)
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Old 07-09-2003, 10:34 PM   #13
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I would think 225's would fit on the strut side; I'm running 225/50/16 Ecsta 712's (more sidewall bulge, lower on the strut, and thicker OB struts) with no rubbing whatsoever; fwiw, I have more tire/strut clearance than I had with the stock 205/70/15's (which actually rubbed on the struts over bumps.)

The fenders are a whole different story, I suppose, though I had my wagon totally loaded down (1/2 finger gap in the rear) and didn't rub, even over speed bumps and hard cornering (people I was with said my rim was disappearing inside the fender), so I'd assume that if it wouldn't rub under those conditions, with .5 negative camber in back, a lowered GT with -1 or so would have absolutely no problems....

That looks absolutely beautiful, any more info on the rims? (weight, width, offset, general price, availability?)
That's really interesting. My car is a little bit different, I'm sure, but I guess the only way to know is to try it. Speaking of trying it, does anybody know of chain tire stores that are willing to mount a tire on your car to check for things like this prior to the sale?

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Old 07-09-2003, 11:09 PM   #14
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Dont like it.

Replacement tires cost too much. I think in the end the performance increase compared to price would warrant the use of ultra sticky 16 inch tires. Even if they are replaced more often (because of low tread wear ratings).

You also loose alot of choices, very few tires are available in that size. Tire rack for example has 139 in stock size and 4 in your new size.


Plus these wheels are TWENTY SEVEN POUNDS without tires. Over WRX wheels for example thats an increase of FOURTY FOUR POUNDS of rotational weight!!!

Then you have to take into account the heavier tires, which the weight is now also more concetrated closer to the outer edge, that and the fact that the majority of metal on the rim is near the outer edge and look, you've just installed 4 freaking flywheels on your car

Acceleration and braking are reduced. Cost is increased. Not my idea of a very good moficiation.

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Old 07-09-2003, 11:14 PM   #15
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I've had both big-o and america's tire stores mount tires to test fit (well, more like " I'm not sure if those'll fit, am I on the hook if they rub?" "nope, it won't be a problem"

I would advise doing something stupid like massively loading your trunk up before going into test; they're not gonna take back tires after you put 50 miles on them ,but if you just roll it around the parking lot, it should be ok. Just ask, say "i'm trying to figure out the widest thing I can put on without rubbing, can you help"



I think the amount of room in the BC/BF's is slightly less thant he Bd/BG's, but I've seen 18's on BC's and BF's beofre, so I would assume you could make it fit.

Oh, I'm running 225's on 16x7 wheels; running a wider wheel throws off all my calculations. Aftermarket wheels have the same problem; myy RS rims are ET53, but most aftermarket rims are gonna be set out at least another 5-8 mm from that, which is good for strut clearance, but bad for fender clearance (get a bat and go to work

I love the way 15's and 16's accelerate, and with good tires on, they stick, but I love the transitory response in everyday driving I get with a shorter sidewall on a bigger rim.

And spare me the arguments on unsprung weight, I ran 13's on my old car, but I like the look of bigger rims, and there's nothing wrong with cosmetics, as not everybody's racing, man
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Old 07-10-2003, 12:42 AM   #16
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Zesty! I dig it.
ready for off road your curbs must be knee high to still be hitting them.
Allthough 27 pound wheels will never ever go on my ride.
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Old 07-10-2003, 02:06 PM   #17
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Talked to a few different tire distributors about weight difference and the amounts of materials used to make a 16" tire compared to that of a 18" tire. they explained that if both tires had roughly the same tread size, they are basically the same weight. Yes the 18" tire has an 18" hole from side wall to side wall, but essentialy (some brands excluded) a 16" tire is going to have more side wall material, therefore weighing the same as the extra width of a 18".
So hypothetically you are no better off on stock rims and tires, than lets say some Konig 18" Heliums in Black(mind you each rim ways about 2.5 lbs more than stock rim according to Sport Compact Cars) with similar tread size of the 16" wheel. If you really look at it you are now getting a equal weight set up with more rigid tires and bling bling rims for about $1200. IMO this beats the crap out of stock rims for looks and performance. Plus the Heliums are relatively cheap so if you are dumb enough to kill a curb, replacement is an option. Now given if you slap a 28lb rim on your car tire weight is not going to matter one bit, but with research you can find a light 18" wheel (Volk, SSR, Ect.)
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Old 07-10-2003, 05:48 PM   #18
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Burnwagon, you're right about tire size and weight. Sometimes the tire acutally gets lighter as wheel size increases.

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27 pounds, 7.5" wide, 48mm offset, retail $389 each. Available by special order from Japan. (I had this set on my shelf for over a year...the car needed new tires, so I figured, what the heck, they're in stock...)

Ciper, your points are valid, but honestly, my automatic-trans Legacy wasn't much of a track star to begin with. A little more wheel weight doesn't matter much to me. It mostly trundles around town carrying my daughter to nursery school and stuff. And as to cost...well, I sell these parts for a living. I have different ideas of what's worthwhile than some people.

By the way, one of the worst offenders in the boat-anchor wheel department is the '00+ Audi S4, whose "Avus" style 17" wheels weigh 28 pounds each.

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