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Old 07-09-2003, 08:50 PM   #1
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Default Moving I/C Spray and DCCD Switches?

Anyone think of moving the DCCD bias switch next to the "blank" beside the DCCD AUTO toggle, then move the I/C Spray switch to the vacated DCCD bias stock location. Seems like it would make the I/C Sprayer handier and pair up the 2 DCCD switches. Any issues with extended wire lengths?
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Old 07-10-2003, 02:55 AM   #2
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Default Re: Moving I/C Spray and DCCD Switches?

Interesting thought... I doubt lengthening the wires a bit would hurt anything.

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Anyone think of moving the DCCD bias switch next to the "blank" beside the DCCD AUTO toggle, then move the I/C Spray switch to the vacated DCCD bias stock location. Seems like it would make the I/C Sprayer handier and pair up the 2 DCCD switches. Any issues with extended wire lengths?
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Old 07-10-2003, 05:05 PM   #3
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i was actually contemplating rewiring the IC spray and the windshield washer, because if you need the extra power from the IC spray, you're probably on your way to going very fast and you prolly shouldnt take your hands off the wheel, and if your windshield is all gunked up and you cant see very well, you're prolly going pretty slow in the first place. if someone has done this already, can you post a step by step DIY, and if not and i actually go through with it, i'll make a step by step DIY post.

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Old 07-10-2003, 05:51 PM   #4
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I've been giving some thought to converting the IC water jets into headlight lens washers. I've never read a thing that found they measurably improved performance.
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Old 08-13-2003, 12:28 PM   #5
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Default Pondering a similar move

Jang and I have discussed moving the IC spray control to the center console. (Into the blank beside the DCCD)

When we popped the dash to do the red control mods and move the IC to the right blank position we found the wiring would not reach easily. One would have to extend the wiring to do this. It just fits in better than having to using the left hand to tap it. I will be inquiring with the service manager to a female plug to the IC control and just extend the plug to the console.

I go back and forth on the position - should the DCCD controls stick together (if the plug will just snap in) or should I keep the toggles together.

OR

would it be cool to move the DCCD to the left of Steering Wheel and the IC and light control to the console???


In any case I forget in the toggles are the same size and the controls? Any clues?
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Old 08-14-2003, 09:19 AM   #6
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Quote:
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i was actually contemplating rewiring the IC spray and the windshield washer, because if you need the extra power from the IC spray, you're probably on your way to going very fast and you prolly shouldnt take your hands off the wheel, and if your windshield is all gunked up and you cant see very well, you're prolly going pretty slow in the first place. if someone has done this already, can you post a step by step DIY, and if not and i actually go through with it, i'll make a step by step DIY post.

-brian
This is the best idea yet. Please let us know if it works.
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Old 08-14-2003, 11:52 AM   #7
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Exclamation Mods & other info...

Meridoc,

Since you and I last saw each other for the redlight mod I've decided I'm going to go for it.

My mod will be to move the headlight adjuster to the blank next tot he the DCCD auto/manual switch. I moved the IC switch back to where it was stock as reaching for it to the far left only made it mor difficult. I'll leave it there and just go with the automatic activation setup from Autospeed.com.

What I'd really like to see is a floor mounted left foot activated high beam actuation switch as domestics used to use back in the day. It never fails that as I'm entering a corner at speed it'll be pitch black and I don't feel comfortable letting go of the wheel to toggle the hi-beam switch.

Another idea I have is to pull the drivers door window control switches whihc are siad to be sourced from Nissan and head over to my local dealership. I'd like to replace all four with auto up & down switches.

Now I just need to get some time to actually do the research (for the parts) and perform the job.

Since you last saw my car I've done the redlight mod to my rear license plate lights and the trunk light. I picked up red colored glass bulbs from AutoZone in the appropriate size.
As for the map lights & dome light coloring I did with a sharpie, it seems the coloring is wearing away from the heat of the bulb. The light is getting whiter & whiter with each day. Bottom line, foget the sharpie work around as a long term solution.

One last item.
Yesterday I had a friendly conversation at my place with the local Loudoun County Sherriff's K-9 unit director (Hi Officer Davis!). He instructed me that I needed to get my car VA inspected ASAP as the NY inspection does not carry over. So I go to my service station that I have been visiting for 8 years to get all of my cars inspected (they know me by name) and they flipped out over the STi. Specifically the wing & the hood scoop.
It seems VA has a law about the max height allowed for both such items and when measured the STi OEM equipment is just beyond the max allowable (hood is 1/8" too high and wing is an inch!). They were at first going to _fail_ me but decided not to as the car is fully stock with OEM parts. They warned me though not to be surprised if a State Police officer pulls me over to talk about it down the road. They suggested I talk to the State Police pronto to secure a waiver allowing for the out of VA spec parts as they are OEM.
One other item. Be very sure that when you do go for an inspection that your inspection station/mechanic knows not to put the STi on a 2-wheel dyno. There is tons of info in the owners manual regarding this subject and that this car in specific has received a waiver from the EPA toward this item/requirement in most states. Further, in the owners manual holder there is a reference card to provide to the inspector in the event he balks. My guys knew about this upfront as they said they don't test any Subaru's as they are "mostly AWD". My 4EAT Legacy can be tested this way though as there is a bypass to disable the center diff via a underhood install of a 15A fuse.

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Old 08-14-2003, 12:26 PM   #8
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DCCD manual bias control seems to me to be a much more important function than IC spray.

I'd say that if/when you decide to start driving the car in manual mode, your lap times will be quicker with easy & ergonomic access to the bias switch rather than to the IC spray

If IC spray is really that important for you, get a controller for an auto mode for it.
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Old 08-14-2003, 12:40 PM   #9
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Austin said exactly what I was thinking as I was reading this thread. He beat me to the post, but I second his suggestion.

Leave the DCCD dial and get an intercooler spray controller.
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Old 08-14-2003, 01:01 PM   #10
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For me the bias control is in a near perfect position.
I only wish that it had detents at each position to stop the wheel as I keep accidentally brushing it with my hand and moving it up or down by a level.

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Old 08-14-2003, 01:38 PM   #11
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My mod will be to move the headlight adjuster to the blank next tot he the DCCD auto/manual switch. I moved the IC switch back to where it was stock as reaching for it to the far left only made it more difficult. I'll leave it there and just go with the automatic activation setup from Autospeed.com.
I have noticed the far right position we moved my IC is awkward also. The steering wheel covers it. and I find myself fumbling for it. I saw the automatic solution also. Like you, I like it more. Maybe a local supplier can supply a bulk price (Mach V are you listening? )

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Another idea I have is to pull the drivers door window control switches whihc are siad to be sourced from Nissan and head over to my local dealership. I'd like to replace all four with auto up & down switches.

Now I just need to get some time to actually do the research (for the parts) and perform the job.
Now that is a neat install. I would love that also - We need to have beers this weekend to talk this one over. Bring the wife and child!

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So I go to my service station that I have been visiting for 8 years to get all of my cars inspected (they know me by name) and they flipped out over the STi. Specifically the wing & the hood scoop.
It seems VA has a law about the max height allowed for both such items and when measured the STi OEM equipment is just beyond the max allowable (hood is 1/8" too high and wing is an inch!). They were at first going to _fail_ me but decided not to as the car is fully stock with OEM parts. They warned me though not to be surprised if a State Police officer pulls me over to talk about it down the road. They suggested I talk to the State Police pronto to secure a waiver allowing for the out of VA spec parts as they are OEM.
Crap - You know I should have expected this! The shop I went to in Manassas said as much given the flack new Mustang GT owners had over the OEM scoop... but given that VA registered a stock dealer delivered vehicle, one could assume VA had a responsibilty to make allowances/variances...

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One other item. Be very sure that when you do go for an inspection that your inspection station/mechanic knows not to put the STi on a 2-wheel dyno.
Had an AWD Explorer - been there done that

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Looking at this pic it looks like the Head light adjustment is a different blank type than the DCCD switch.

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Old 08-14-2003, 03:22 PM   #12
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It's a done deal for getting together this weekend.
Check your e-mail as I'd like to see/hear WRX What's exhaust install too.

I won't be bringing 'Mrs. Janq' & 'Baby Janq' this time as they have a 'Bradley Method' class reunion to attend Saturday afternoon that I'm taking a pass on. I did my time and now I'm done withit. Sitting around talking about it is not my idea of fun.

Iv'e since moved my IC button to all three openings and not one of them is comfortable. And now that my bulb is seemingly blown its even tougher to use. I moved it back to the stock location and stopped using it. The auto kit is where I'm going to go as soon as I get time to do it and hook up with you & WRX What for another mod day.

I'll keep you looped on what I find out about the switches.
Why Subaru didn't do this stock is beyond me. Also I'd like to switch the polarity of the door lock switch as currently its the reverse of what I'm used to. I go to unlock the door and it locks and vice versa. I never told you about how I locked myself out of the car while standing on the side of the road 60 miles after picking up the car. It was due to this item.

The guys at my inspection station are real cool, at least with me, and dont' normally give too much flack about stuff. The owner said he'd been burned recently on an aftermarket install by some "Fast & Furious Motherf***er" that installed a wing after going through inspection but claimed it had been there prior
and now their paranoid. I'll give you their info directly for obvious reasons. You never know if/when Big Brother is reading these posts.

For those that haven't taken their dash apart yet as Meridoc & I have (I've got it down to less than 5 minutes!) do know that the headlight adjustment switch is smaller and has a completely different switch base form factor that is not compatible with the blanks to the right as featured in Meridoc's pic. To relocate this switch would mean moving it to the center console only to maintain a stock looking install.

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Old 08-14-2003, 03:23 PM   #13
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For me the bias control is in a near perfect position.
I only wish that it had detents at each position to stop the wheel as I keep accidentally brushing it with my hand and moving it up or down by a level.

- Janq
Did you see this thread on DCCD Inputs and Control?

One thing I would like to see is a momentary pushbutton which unlocks the bias dial and allows manual bias control to be changed. That would require removing the current bias dial and replacing it with an electronic pot of some sort... Something for me to think about...
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Old 08-14-2003, 03:45 PM   #14
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Did you see this thread on DCCD Inputs and Control?

One thing I would like to see is a momentary pushbutton which unlocks the bias dial and allows manual bias control to be changed. That would require removing the current bias dial and replacing it with an electronic pot of some sort... Something for me to think about...
Yep, I saw that...good info.

I don't know about jacking with those controls for fear of hurting the DCCD brain. Let folks know how it goes, and be very careful.

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Old 08-14-2003, 03:49 PM   #15
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Maybe a local supplier can supply a bulk price (Mach V are you listening? )
We are selling the Pivot Water Spray Controller. To be honest, I am not much into "group buys," as (in my experience) they always turn out to be more hassle than they're worth. Sorry.

But if you are interested in the product, come by the shop.

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Old 08-14-2003, 03:56 PM   #16
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Dan - is there a site with a bit more information on the functions and control features/adjustability of that unit?

Also, is it sold without all the associated "kit" stuff, as all an STi owner would need is the control box?
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We are selling the Pivot Water Spray Controller. To be honest, I am not much into "group buys," as (in my experience) they always turn out to be more hassle than they're worth. Sorry.

But if you are interested in the product, come by the shop.

--Dan
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Dan,

I don't blame you.
Expect Meridock & I as well as probably 'WRX What' to be calling on you directly for more info.

Thanks!

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