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Old 07-10-2003, 01:08 PM   #1
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Hello All....

I've owned my 2003 Baja for about 3 months and I am really
happy with it so far. My last vehicle has a Jeep Cherokee,
and this is a dream come true from a gas mileage point of view.

I live in Canada, and one of the reasons that I purchased this
vehicle over others that I looked at was it's "winter" cold
weather abilities.

I plan on adding an auto-car starter before winter arrives, and
I am a little confused at what I think is true. Do the heated seats
have to be sat on to work. I had hoped to leave them on, use the starter, and jump into them pre-warmed. Does anyone know the answer. I also would like to acquire a Snug Top soon, does anyone know of a dealer closer to Toronto?

Also the heated drivers seat doesn't seem to get all that warm,
even on high... is that usual? or do I have a problem?

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Old 07-17-2003, 05:04 AM   #2
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I really do not know anything regarding the heated seats, but it sure sounds like something that would be nice here in the East Coast.
As far as the Snug Top I just ordered one from the Subaru Dealer. There is a really nice picture of the Snug Top at, www.canopywest.com you will have to search around in there I forgot how I found it.
I think you will have a lot of fun in Canada with your BAJA, I read in one of the reveiws that in the snow they are virtually unstopable.
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Old 07-17-2003, 03:53 PM   #3
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just out of curiosity how much did your dealer charge you? I'm still trying to find a good deal on one and the best I've seen is by going to the snugtop retailers(aka. places that sell truck caps and accesories.).


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Old 07-17-2003, 03:58 PM   #4
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Originally posted by BajaOwner
Hello All....

I've owned my 2003 Baja for about 3 months and I am really
happy with it so far. My last vehicle has a Jeep Cherokee,
and this is a dream come true from a gas mileage point of view.

I live in Canada, and one of the reasons that I purchased this
vehicle over others that I looked at was it's "winter" cold
weather abilities.

I plan on adding an auto-car starter before winter arrives, and
I am a little confused at what I think is true. Do the heated seats
have to be sat on to work. I had hoped to leave them on, use the starter, and jump into them pre-warmed. Does anyone know the answer. I also would like to acquire a Snug Top soon, does anyone know of a dealer closer to Toronto?

Also the heated drivers seat doesn't seem to get all that warm,
even on high... is that usual? or do I have a problem?

BajaOwner
The seats should preheat, but the heat won't transfer until there's some weight in the seat to reduce the space between the heater and the seat material. At least the heater will be ready to go. My 99 heaters get pretty hot on the high setting; the overall highest temperature might've been adjusted due to complaints since people complain about the darndest things these days (coffee too hot and all that). Consult your dealer; maybe they can adjust something.

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Old 07-17-2003, 04:21 PM   #5
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Spacemonkey
The dealer charged me $1.167.00 this includes tax and installation,He did mention that after giving me the quote He found out that His shipping charge was more than What He expected. I still got it at the quoted price,however the next one He sells, He will have to charge more.
I didn't actually shop around, "Did I get a good deal?"
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Old 07-17-2003, 05:22 PM   #6
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Post nice......

Well, that is an interesting topic about the weight and pre-heating............
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Old 07-18-2003, 09:44 AM   #7
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Unhappy Advice....

I am REALLY interested in the Snug Top, but it seems like my
options, are limited up here in Canada. My local Subaru dealer can
supply, but the price, installed, is $1670 USD

Anyone out there know of a reputuble U.S. reseller/dealer,
within reasonable driving distance of Toronto? I really don't feel like throwing $500 USD out the window (that's like a million Canadian dollars).

I will look at any other options.

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Old 07-18-2003, 02:37 PM   #8
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Old 07-18-2003, 05:54 PM   #9
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seven- actually yes i'm suprised to see that you got out for under 1,500 from a subaru dealer. bajaowners price seemed what most subaru dealerships where charging.
"It is a limited production specially made subaru part" was the quote I got from the local parts subaru dealership. I said wow you know that really looks like the exact same one they sell across town for 900 plus install (a little under 1k total).
"can't be subaru is going to be the only supplier of these parts you must be confused" (or something to that effect) soo
yes i must say give your dealer props for exluding the usual subaru parts mark up.

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Old 07-18-2003, 06:25 PM   #10
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You don't have to be on the seats to have them com on but there is a thermostat that turns them off at a set temp. I can find if you need it but low setting is like 85F and Hi is 100F or so if I remember right.
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Old 07-18-2003, 06:42 PM   #11
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Peaty,

Are you sure about not having to sit in the seat?

I was showed a schematic of the seats,
it looked like there was some type of relay
built into the heating circuit.

Could this be unique to the Baja?

My local Subaru dealership says you do have
to be sitting on the seat. But they did't seem confident.

Also, do you think there is a adjustment under the seat
for the temp?

However you can help would be GREATLY appreciated

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Old 07-18-2003, 10:07 PM   #12
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e-mail me direct and I'll send you the PDF of the seat heater schematic.

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Old 07-19-2003, 03:44 AM   #13
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I just want to clarify that I did not say that you had to be sitting in the seat for the heater to come on. I meant that the weight would compress the seat fabric and cushioning into the heater which would promote more heat transfer between the materials resulting in warmer fabric. How warm do you think your backside would get if you sat 2 inches off the seat? I tend to think there's a lot of air in the cushioning, but maybe that's just from my boney butt deforming the foam after too many long road trips. I am not crazy. Might be paranoid though.

BTW, I think the dealer is wrong, too.

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Old 07-19-2003, 05:53 AM   #14
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I have obviously missed something - is there an add on kit from Subaru to put heated seats in the Baja? My wife has a '98 Outback and it came with heated seats - didn't think it was possible in the Baja. I'd sure love to add it, if possible.

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Old 07-19-2003, 09:06 AM   #15
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The heated seats were
a standard item on mine.

2 switches in the middle console.

Is that only a Canada thing?
Or maybe a geographic thing?

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Old 07-19-2003, 09:20 AM   #16
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It seems Canada always gets seat heaters on models that the US does not. My impreza didn't have them but they did in Canada. My OB VDC has them as does my Forester XT. The OB has Leather but the XT does not.

In looking at the wiring diagram it seems there is a switch that may be in the seat. According to the symbols it's normally closed though.

PS BajaOwner, sent you the info.

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Old 07-19-2003, 09:37 AM   #17
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Seems strange that they didn't offer them as an option in the US. They were standard in my wife OB LTD. I got spoiled having them in her car and in my BMW 323Ci (which I sold to buy the Baja). Sure would be nice if they could be added.

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Old 07-19-2003, 09:50 AM   #18
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Katzkin has aftermarket leather that you can get the seat heaters to install as an option. You could always check to see if you can get it from them. I'm sure you could retrofit the OEM parts but the cost would be pretty high.


look here:


http://www.katzkin.com/SITE/HTML/seat.heaters.html
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Old 08-12-2003, 12:26 AM   #19
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The seat heaters in my outback don't seem to transfer the heat if someone isn't sitting in them. I've turned on both seats several times and when I'm the only one in the car but only my seat gets warm. If someone is in the other seat, it will get warm too. Obviously I haven't checked to see if the drivers seat does the same thing because I'm not gonna sit in the passenger seat with the car running to see...

but anyways, this helps your point of the seat needing someone in it to get warm, because a few papers and a couple cd's didn't do it, but my wife's bottom did...

Also, my seats get real hot after a few minutes, so your seats SHOULD get hot too...
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Old 10-29-2003, 10:00 PM   #20
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Hi I think i have found a place to pick up baja acessories for cheep it is in the US and they have quite a few things.

http://www.subaruxtras.com
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Old 10-29-2003, 10:13 PM   #21
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Looking at the wiring diagram, it seems there is a contact switch there that needs someones bum in the seat to make them come on.
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Old 12-12-2003, 01:02 PM   #22
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Unhappy Heated Seats Hunt

I have been hunting the Heated Seats issue since I got my WRX March of 2003. I found that all the cars in Canada have them and none of the cars in United States do. I'm betting that installing the heated seats isn't too hard but without part numbers or option number there seems to be no way to find out. I wonder what an owner in Canada would do if the car was out of warranty. I'm sure it is in the dealers system, but here in the States they play pretty dumb about it.
Any info (even off you window sticker) would be great.
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Old 12-12-2003, 04:01 PM   #23
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you can get an aftermarket set of heating elements. There is some sort of kit you can get w/ all the parts. I know someone that was doing this and if you want I can put in touch with him.
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Old 12-12-2003, 08:40 PM   #24
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The Baja Turbo can be had with the seat heaters only in conjucntion with the Leather Package. I guess they figure only leather gets cold.
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Old 12-12-2003, 08:46 PM   #25
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My Forester XT has cloth seats with heaters. In fact they warm up a lot faster than the leather seats in our OB VDC Wagon.
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