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Old 04-06-2001, 05:53 AM   #1
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Angry how to drive like an idiot, me (long)

okay, so i am driving home from a afterwork social at someone's house, about 9:30. i am taking backroads in this area 'cause some are twisty and hilly. i am moving at a good clip (still too fast for the area) making some hard corners and generally having a blast... all the while not realizing i going WAY to fast for the tires and my ability probably...
so... i come around a sweeping right hander that tightens goes off camber... well the car starts pushing on me... i gently (or so i thought) i tap the brake to slow down and the backend goes out on me... i release and turn into it... snap the car goes 180 and into the grass on the right hand side with the drivers side first... did i mention the mailbox?
...or the telephone pole?
welll... as i am sliding backwards towards the curb i notice the telephone in front or down the road from original direction of travel... then as i spin and look over my left shoulder i notice the car moving towards the mailbox... luckily only one of those little Ace Hardware metal kind...

the car hits the curb the front gets airborne while the back (which is the front according to direction of travel) plows tthe yard...
the brake pedal goes soft as i dig furrows in the grass and the car finally comes to a rest... i hit the gas... pull out onto the street and the drives fine... same this morning.

so i drive on down the road and got to a Cheveron station...
At the gas station I get out to asses the damage… no body damage… no broken wheels, not even scratched… lucky so far… all sorts of grass and mud dug into the rear driver’s side wheel… the car is muddy all over… then I walk to the front… on the passenger side of the bumper, just over the fog light… a chunk missing… I mean a gouge… like someone cut a piece out of it and scratches all along the bottom lip… it is ugly…

Okay now that I am gonna get thrashed by everyone I admit I was a complete idiot for driving so fast… whatever you are gonna say about me I already have told myself… a dozen and a half times last night and this morning. This story is in no way meant to glorify what I did… just hope someone else will read this and think twice before acting like an idiot and wrapping themselves around a telephone pole… I was LUCKY.

Oh yeah, the RE92’s on my car are near bald… that didn’t help AT ALL.

-brian- not to be confused with brain…

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Old 04-06-2001, 05:55 AM   #2
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pics ?? any pics??
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Old 04-06-2001, 06:01 AM   #3
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not yet... i am gonna try and go by today or tomorrow and see.
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Old 04-06-2001, 06:20 AM   #4
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Damn dude you are lucky. It could have been much worse.
At least you realize that you were completely at fault. I won't go into berrating you but just be glad you came away without hurting someone.
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Old 04-06-2001, 06:25 AM   #5
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Gee, I have my own SpeedRacer bouncing off a snowbank/curb story...how fast were you going?
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Old 04-06-2001, 06:36 AM   #6
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That sucks Brian, but like others have said it could've been worse.

I was lucky to find out what bald RE-92's do in a slower manner. I was exiting one day off of 400 (exit 6, kind of a loop-around) and I just thought I'd hit the gas until I started loosing traction. Well, once it happened, I slowly hit the brakes went sightly out of control and found myself looking out of my side window! Luckily, I countersteered perfectly and let off of the brakes slowly. I ended up at rest in the right turn lane (where I intended to be), and got a thumbs-up from a driver in the next lane. I thought "if only he knew how much luck was involved in that maneuver!"

-Mike.
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Old 04-06-2001, 06:40 AM   #7
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When I was learning to left foot brake, I spun my Celica off the inside of an off-ramp. Went around three or four times and came to rest on a muddy bank. Not a scratch.

You have to learn somehow, now take what you learned about your/the car's limits and become a better driver from it.
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Old 04-06-2001, 06:41 AM   #8
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i am not going to thrash you...
i cant say a damn thing...
been there... done that myself...
years ago ... i too learned the hard way!

at least you are ok...
in one piece and had minimal damage...
slow down and think twice before doing this next time ok??? (best not to do it at all!!)

try getting involved in autox or rallyx... it's not too terribly expensive, and allows you to increase your driving skills and get to know your car really well!! plus it's legal... and you are not endangering anyone... namely yourself!

oh and... you may want to get an alignment... NOW... i can guarantee your car is outta whack!!

again... glad you are ok...
and thanks for sharing your story in a positive way!!

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Old 04-06-2001, 06:59 AM   #9
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well u're ok right? anyways you know that it is your own fault that you caused that cus u seem kinda pissed at yourself. so that would serve as something for you to learn. Do take it easy and leave all the energy at the tracks.
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Old 04-06-2001, 06:59 AM   #10
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AutoBri,
Just curious, how big is your rear swaybar?? I am wondering to upgarde or not and am worried about the rear coming out (snap oversteer) in emergency braking. Fill us in.

Glad you are ok. I learned the hard way to put my golf in the wall in a tunnel in Boston.

Experience is a invaluable but expensive experience sometimes.
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Old 04-06-2001, 07:10 AM   #11
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Most importantly, how clean were those undies afterwards?

We all hose it off at some point, so don't worry about it. Seems like you got off with a warning from the Scooby Gods, which is good. And for that matter, the Gods haven't demanded a sacrifice in a while. This is good.

And given the performance of NEW RE92s, I can't imagine that bald ones would be that confidence-inspiring.

I'd put tire shopping on my "to do" list.

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Old 04-06-2001, 07:20 AM   #12
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?? I am wondering to upgarde or not and am worried about the rear coming out (snap oversteer) in emergency braking. Fill us in.
this is AWD people...
when you are in a bind... DONT BRAKE...

GAS... GAS... GAS...

it will pull you out of most situations and keep the back end from getting happy on you...

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Old 04-06-2001, 07:24 AM   #13
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Brian,
Ok, you just made me glad that you were codriving instead of driving on that Cherokee Trails recce trip.

So, how big was that curb, and have you noticed any more damage under the car?

Take it easy,
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Old 04-06-2001, 07:26 AM   #14
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Yeah I was a complete moron. I am real pissed at myself because I did know better. I knew I had bad tires, I knew it was dark out and a less than familiar road but I AM A GOOD DRIVER!! Not… I wanted to push my limits and went too far.

Jamie, I have started SOLOII this year and my next race is Sunday… on bald 92’s.

I was prolly doing between 60-70 on residential streets (BIG F’N MORON!! )

I have a 18MM sway on mine and it does tend to break lose under left foot braking if you are heavy footed like me. at the speeds I was going and conditions I don’t think I could of saved it just too many factors involved


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Old 04-06-2001, 07:50 AM   #15
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Actually braking wouldn't be too bad in the situation, but once the rear end comes out, you need to stomp on the gas and power drift through the corner. I had to do this all last winter when there was snow on the ground and I was on bald Kumho 712's (ice skates with less traction). Tap, sideways, gas, power slide. Takes a lot of practice, but it can be done.

Go get yourself some new tires.
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Old 04-06-2001, 07:55 AM   #16
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Yeah Ross, just call me Solberg Jr.

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Old 04-06-2001, 07:55 AM   #17
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Old 04-06-2001, 07:58 AM   #18
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brian,
glad you're ok. dont be too hard on yourself, everyone makes mistakes. just make sure you learn from it!

btw - do you have an aftermarket sway bar? i always wonder how much it takes to break the end loose, guess i should start autocrossing so i can learn!

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Old 04-06-2001, 07:59 AM   #19
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Have a Nice Day?

I'm happy you and your car made it out OK.
My first car a 93 impreza L was not so lucky My situation was the same as yours, except I went backwards into a ditch that was as wide as the car To make a long story short I rolled it 3 times. Thankfully, I was just knocked unconscious as for the car well it gave its life for mine

The moral of the story please take this as a learning experience, and be thankfull that you and the the car survived to play another day.

Good luck and happy driving
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Old 04-06-2001, 08:07 AM   #20
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Been there, done that, in broad daylight, on dry pavement... HOWEVER, at the time, my vehicle could seat 7...

You haven't lived until you've managed to do a 360° under power oversteer in a minivan. Doh!


Glad to hear you and everyone else is okay...
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Old 04-06-2001, 08:21 AM   #21
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Brian,

glad you got away with it this time!

To add to what subie gal said, you got to turn the wheel in the direction you want to go and try and put the gas peddle through the floor. As long as you keep all 4 wheels turning, you are generating grip in the direction you have the front wheels pointed.

if you want to push it check out an autox, rallyx. its alot of fun.

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Old 04-06-2001, 08:29 AM   #22
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If someone hit my mailbox and left ruts in my yard, I wouldn't be to happy. You might want to stop by with a new mailbox and explain.

Just an idea.
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Old 04-06-2001, 08:34 AM   #23
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Um... No one else has said anything, so I'm just gonna ask. You mention plowing furrows in somebody's yard (and possibly hitting a mailbox?). Did you happen to contact the homeowners to let them know about the damage, or are you telling us you were the perpetrator in a hit-and-run? If so, posting about it on a bulletin board would be mistake number two...

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Old 04-06-2001, 08:54 AM   #24
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So that's who left ruts in my yard and knocked my mailbox down.

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Old 04-06-2001, 09:00 AM   #25
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good point, i am gonna go by either tonight or tomorrow morning to talk to the owner. last night was not a good time to do it. by no means am i trying to get away with anything. i will do the right thing. i just have to find the right house.
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