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Old 07-13-2003, 12:30 PM   #1
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So I was looking online for when the next WRC event is, and went on rally-live.com. And there it was.
Mark Lovell and his co-driver died in a tragic accident during the Oregon Trails rally. I think this is sad for the Team and the families. This is a shocker.


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Old 07-13-2003, 12:41 PM   #2
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Yes, Very sad indeed...
There are threads bot hin OT and in the Motorsports fourms about it... truly tragic
I forsee power reduction for the US series as happened in the WRC years ago... :/
I read the car was travelling at between 85 and 100+ mph when it hit the tree off course only 75ft.? from the start line! i wonder what the 60ft time of the new STi US rally cars is...
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Old 07-13-2003, 05:29 PM   #3
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OMFG...tell me this is a complete joke...

I met Lovell that one time @ Sno*Drift that him and Ramana gave us hats and posters. He was such a nice guy.

God Speed Mark and Roger. You will be missed on the North American stages.

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Old 07-13-2003, 05:55 PM   #4
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oh geeez...
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Old 07-13-2003, 06:42 PM   #5
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I read the car was travelling at between 85 and 100+ mph when it hit the tree off course only 75ft.? from the start line! i wonder what the 60ft time of the new STi US rally cars is...
Not sure where you read that but the press releases I have seen indicated it happened 9/10ths of a mile into the first stage.

No matter what technicalities there are in the details, it is a tragedy for Subaru and unfortunately with the recent events in US Rally (Sawmill), it could become a tragedy for US Rally.

As before, I extend my condolences to the friends and family of Mark Lovell and Roger Freeman.
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Old 07-13-2003, 06:43 PM   #6
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Yeah... .9mi into the stage and they were the first ones out. It really makes me wonder whether the pacenotes were incorrect or something, just seems really odd.
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Old 07-13-2003, 09:05 PM   #7
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Yeh this is absolutely the worst racing news I have heard.. this ranks for me about as bad as Dale E die'n for NASCAR fans.

Godspeed Mark and Roger. Got a big Subaru ProRally poster on my wall, appropriately a Lovell/Turvey poster. (SCCA 2001 driver champ poster).

They died doing something they love and few people are that fortunate.
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Old 07-13-2003, 11:44 PM   #8
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Originally posted by kleinfreak
My cousin and myself followed drivers to the staging area (Timbers) and parked along side the road to walk the first 1/4mile to the starting point. We were 2 of the last to see them leave the starting line. It could not have been more than 75 yds off the line when this happened.
It is confirmed that both Lovell and CoDriver were killed on impact. Paramedics arrived at the scene to pronounced the deceased. I myself directed the medical examiner to the site.
A very very sad day indeed.

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From the sticky in motorsports forum...
in any event it sucks that they died and i agree with Nick that somthing just doesnt seem right... i need to go read about hte Sawmill accident...
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It's scary. You see crashes all the time in WRC and people walk out, so you don't expect something like this to happen. It's very sad and tragic. Is the US team car not as braced as the WRC car? It just seems odd. Very bad either way, pray for their families who are now missing their loved ones!
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I believe the SCCA roll cage specs are the same as FIA now so they should be braced the same... I really want to see a picture of the car to get an idea of how 2 people could die in a rally crash... the way the cars are built it seems very hard for any accident to transfer more than half way across the car.
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Old 07-14-2003, 07:37 PM   #12
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I believe the SCCA roll cage specs are the same as FIA now so they should be braced the same... I really want to see a picture of the car to get an idea of how 2 people could die in a rally crash... the way the cars are built it seems very hard for any accident to transfer more than half way across the car.
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http://www.oregonlive.com/news/orego...3729299530.xml

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Lovell, 43, of Axbridge, Somerset, England, and co-driver Roger Freeman, 51, of Runcom, England, died of head, neck and chest injuries, said Gene Jacobus, Washington County chief deputy medical examiner.
IIRC they found them in their restraints so it could be a combination of whiplash and mass trauma.
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I saw this on Speed TV's website yesterday and couldn't believe it. I had the opportunity to meet Mark at Sno*Drift a couple years ago. What a nice guy and great representitive for Subaru. This is a sad loss. I made a little page on my cardomain.com space in honor of him. Is should be here:

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First Possum and now Mark. What a terrible loss to the rally and racing community.
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Old 07-14-2003, 07:42 PM   #14
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It's scary. You see crashes all the time in WRC and people walk out, so you don't expect something like this to happen. It's very sad and tragic. Is the US team car not as braced as the WRC car? It just seems odd. Very bad either way, pray for their families who are now missing their loved ones!

It was just the way the accident happened.

If you roll a car 15 times the force of the impact is spread over 15 smaller impacts.

When you hit a tree 8 ft wide going over 100 mph there are three impacts

1: Vehicle to stationary object
2:Occupants to vehicle
3:Internal organs to body structure.

Guess which impact kills?


This is the same as the earnhardt accident, 100mph-0mph in thousandths of a second.



The worst part is he just had another son IIRC



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I thought the same thing at first.. how did the car handle the crash so it killed them? The info I got stated that the tree was around 3 feet wide, this is Oregon so it's a big tall pine,word is the car hit the tree at exactly the middle of the driver side of the car between the doors, apparently the tree displaced most of the passenger compartment. They hit the tree first at a high speed without anything to slow them down, that's a lot of energy. Racing of anykind is dangerous, you read about people doing 120 on the freeway and they don't even have the safety equipment like pro-rally, it's enough to make one cringe. All you have to do is hit the wrong thing at the wrong angle at a high enough speed and anything can be destroyed.

We'll miss Mark and Roger here in Oregon and the OTR will certainly never be the same.
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