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Old 07-14-2003, 02:52 AM   #1
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I'm new to this, and this may be a dumb or naive question, but what are the chances of using the turbo from a Forester XT and the hood from a WRX to make a turbo version of an '03 Outback Sport? What HP and Torque could I hope to achieve using the Forester's turbo... same as the Forester XT or more? What would be a ballpark of the cost for the whole operation? Any way to get it done by a Subaru dealer and keep everything under warranty since I'm using Subaru OEM parts?

Like I said, these may be dumb and/or naive questions, but any help or advice you can send my way would be very much appreciated. The reason I'm interested in this, is I would love a turbo version of the 2.5 engine, as opposed to the 2.0 engine that is in the WRX. And it's not that I want an STI wagon (though that would be hella fun). I'm more interested in low-end torque and decent horsepower than high-revving fury (call me a heretic, if you'd like).

I'm about to purchase a Subaru... and was thinking of the WRX... but I loved the engine in the XT I test drove. It would be the best of both worlds for me if I could get the XT power in a WRX wagon body. I could get an '03 OBS for a very decent price and then spend the money saved to gradually upgrade the OBS to the specs I'm looking for. Is this even practicle? Any thoughts?

Thank you, in advance, for any help you can send my way.

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Old 07-14-2003, 08:06 AM   #2
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here is my .02 cents.

WRX wagon new = $24,000

OBS new= $16,500
WRX hood= $400
Ludespeed stage2= $2400
ACT clutch= $500

you got yourself a wrx wagon for $19,800

have fun

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Old 07-14-2003, 10:51 AM   #3
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Thanks for the response. Now, would this setup you describe be, in fact, better than the WRX because of the 2.5L engine? Could you extract the additional torque at a lower RPM and have more felxibility overall in regards to power because of the higher displacement?
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Old 07-14-2003, 11:09 AM   #4
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Why not consider the old body OBS? You can get those fairly cheap, they were made in large numbers, too. Kevin Thomas had a crazy machine for a while(do a search for him and be amazed with videos of his turbo'd OBS crushing other cars). They have a 2.2 liter block(not the 2.2t) that offers a little more torque, although not as much as the EJ25. They have the same issues with turbo'ing as the EJ25. Probably more than satisfactory power. I think you'd be pleasantly surprised with the torque options.

Unless you specifically require a new car(which I question why you'd want to turbo it immediately, but that's up to you), consider purchasing one of the older ones. A better choice might be just a regular Impreza wagon. You can easily track down old RS factory suspension pieces for cheap to upgrade the car. Many of them would be low-mileage, as lots of 98-01 RS's upgraded those components very soon after purchase. Turbo kits for most EJ25's will usually fit an EJ22, and often, if you go a little older, you can get a little cheaper on the engine management options.

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p.s. If you get an older OBS, you already have the hood you need.
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Old 07-14-2003, 01:18 PM   #5
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Thanks for the advice so far. I've been considering the '02/'03 OBS, because I love the look with the bug eyes and all, and I figured it would be a good place to start. Going with an older OBS is also something to consider, though.

Keep the advice coming, I really appreciate the different perspectives.
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Old 07-14-2003, 02:15 PM   #6
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Get a WRX wagon if you want looks, Get a XT if you want torque.

If you are new to the subaru scene, don't even consider turboing a N/A EJ25. It is too involving, cancels your warranty, and you spend more money getting it to WRX specs for the fraction of reliability.

Also OBS has a diffrent suspension , no rear swaybar.
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...or do what you want. The '03 OBS with the Ludespeed stage II will be faster than a WRX wagon (stock) for less money.

But... you will have no warranty. Remember that. If you spend the little bit more on the WRX wagon, you will have a warranty... for the most part.

My friend was gonna do the same thing, only with a TS wagon. He really wanted AT. He decided against it, and bought a '95 240SX SE AT instead. Now he is doing an SR swap.... (also AT).
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Old 07-14-2003, 04:22 PM   #8
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What type of HP and Torque ratings would you get with the Ludespeed II '03 OBS? Then, what would be the costs of upgrading brakes and other little goodies, and what would those goodies be, to prepare for the increase in power?
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