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Old 07-17-2003, 02:19 AM   #1
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Unhappy Initial Oil Change Dilemma

Did my break in oil change today and I believe I may have a problem.
1. Read my owners manual and purchased 5 quarts mobil 1 and an oil filter (wrx type, Subaru dealer did not have STI filter).

2. Drained all of the oil after running the car for 10 minutes, and remover the old filter as per owners manual.

3. I then put the drain plug and filter back on, and filled with 4.8 quarts (to the full line on the dipstick) as per manual.

This is where I come to the problem, when I poured the old oil from the pan into the two 3 quart jugs i had for disposing the oil in, I only filled about 3/4 of ONE jug?!? By my calculations, my engine had a little over 2 quarts of oil in it! I now have no idea what I should do, go and scream at the service dept. at my dealer, or what? I mean after they PDI'd my car, I discovered 2 weeks into ownership, that they had not removed the plastic covering the shocks, something you would expect when a car has been gone over with a fine toothed comb for problems.
Any thought or ideas would be great. HELP!!!
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Old 07-17-2003, 02:28 AM   #2
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Well I bet there was oil in the filter when you removed it.

I hope you actually measured with the dip stick only, when you put the new oil in, rather than trusting the 4.8 figure.

Did you use a new crush washer?
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Old 07-17-2003, 03:26 AM   #3
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Well I bet there was oil in the filter when you removed it.

Still, I doubt the filter held 2.8qts of the missing oil...

Did you crawl under and check for any obvious leaks?
Did you ever notice the tell-tale smoke of burning oil?
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Old 07-17-2003, 05:11 AM   #4
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I went through a just over a qt of oil in the first 2000 miles. Hopefully this is due to run in period and not long term...time will tell. My WRX never used a drop as a comparison either did my GSX.
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Old 07-17-2003, 06:41 AM   #5
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Where did you get 3 quart jugs from? Almost every jug that I've seen is a 4 quart. And even when a 4 quart milk jug has 4 quarts of oil in it, it often looks only 3/4ths full. If this is the case and you consider the oil in the filter, you've accounted for most of your oil.
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Old 07-17-2003, 07:19 AM   #6
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It was a windshield washer fluid bottle, and it was a little over 3 quart bottle, but it was all of the oil from the car, I dumped what was in the filter in as well, but even if the bottle had 3 quarts in, I was still 1.8 quarts down. and yes I use the oil to verify level, add 4 quarts, run engine briefly, check level, add more, check agian, repeat untill level is correct, that is the way I was taught.
Bottom of the engine looked brand new, no oil leak signs. Never smelled or saw any signs of burning oil. Not even the usual puff at cold startup you usually see from a horrizontally opposed engine, like I see on my porsche.
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Old 07-17-2003, 09:27 AM   #7
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Did you use a new crush washer?
Do you have to get these from the dealership?
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Old 07-17-2003, 09:29 AM   #8
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This reminds me of Die Hard with a Vengance scene at the park with the 2 water jugs....
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Old 07-17-2003, 09:51 AM   #9
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Do you have to get these from the dealership?
they come with the filter.
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Old 07-17-2003, 03:42 PM   #10
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I don't know what the oil pan looks like, buy might your car have been on a slight incline? Enough to keep some oil from draining?
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Old 07-17-2003, 09:08 PM   #11
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Geez, what is it with STi owners and routine oil changes turning into traumatic episodes?
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Old 07-17-2003, 10:14 PM   #12
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I think it is the STi owners that haven't owned a Subaru before.
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Old 07-17-2003, 10:53 PM   #13
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hey, i havent owned a subie before, and i did my own oil change with no ill affects.
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Old 07-17-2003, 10:55 PM   #14
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I have owned a Subaru before, no problems, and I don't think the type of car has anything to do with why the car was at least 2 quarts low from the dealer. If you cant offer any helpful thoughts, lets not turn this into an argument over who knows what about cars.
That said, if anyone else has not had this problem, or cannot give any ideas as to a logical reason why this could have happened with the previously stated facts, then I guess I will be taking it up with the dealership. But Thanks anyhow gang.
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Old 07-18-2003, 12:19 AM   #15
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You didn't check the oil level after you bought the car?

There's no way of knowing where the oil went or if it was ever there if you never verified the oil level before the oil change.... I don't understand what your problem is.

You car has the right amount of oil in it now, the oil light never came on before the change so you never sucked air, and you have the wrong filter. Seems pretty straight forward how to proceed....

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