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Old 07-18-2003, 12:45 PM   #1
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Default No More Ultra94 In Pa!

Went to my local Sunoco to fill up /w 94
& noticed that stickers were plastered
over the buttons & there was no more
94. When I was paying the gal , I asked
her what happened & she said that
Sunoco will no longer provide 94 in PA.

That sux! Since I've installed my SECS,
I've never had timing pulled due to knock
& I've been running her pretty hard now.

It'll be interesting to see if there's any
difference running the 93.
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Old 07-18-2003, 12:51 PM   #2
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We still have it in MD...as of yesterday, I have to go out of my way to find a Sunoco...
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Old 07-18-2003, 12:57 PM   #3
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Sunnoco is the only station for me. (There is one 2 mins form my house.)

I use 94 all the time, on all our cars. If its good enough for my dad's 427 Cobra, it will be good enough for my STi.

Forgot to say though, that sucks for me when I'm at college. I used to have a Sunoco close by, but now I guess I'll have to get 93 from it. Damn.
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Old 07-18-2003, 01:00 PM   #4
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Well, just got of the phone w/ a nice
lady from Sunoco & she basically told
me that the line the lady gave me last
night was BS. She's checking into it w/ the
local Sunoco rep & will get back to me.

I'll let you know what I find out.
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Old 07-18-2003, 01:20 PM   #5
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OH NO! I hope they dont do that in VA. I drive 15 miles each way to get to Sunoco. They already took away most of my texaco's(For some reason my cars respond real well to Texaco)
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Old 07-18-2003, 01:32 PM   #6
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Great, now I'll be throwing *more* than 5 gallons of gt100 in per tank...

Hope this is just a horrible lie by that one dealer!
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Old 07-18-2003, 02:14 PM   #7
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Yeah, they're still selling it at every Sunoco I visit. Sounds like you got a line of BS.

Keith
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Old 07-18-2003, 03:04 PM   #8
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Originally posted by Pre-diddy
Sunnoco is the only station for me. (There is one 2 mins form my house.)

I use 94 all the time, on all our cars. If its good enough for my dad's 427 Cobra, it will be good enough for my STi.

Forgot to say though, that sucks for me when I'm at college. I used to have a Sunoco close by, but now I guess I'll have to get 93 from it. Damn.
Pre-diddy-
AH...the 427 S/C my 3rd car (hopefully in the next 5yrs). Wife says "go for it" I love her. Not to offend but is dad's an original? I'm looking at a CSX 4000 (Shelby) or a Kirkham.
If money is tight a nice factory built ERA.
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Old 07-18-2003, 03:25 PM   #9
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Pre-diddy-
AH...the 427 S/C my 3rd car (hopefully in the next 5yrs). Wife says "go for it" I love her. Not to offend but is dad's an original? I'm looking at a CSX 4000 (SAI) or a Kirkham.
If money is tight a nice factory built ERA.
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I don't know how much of it is original off the top of my head, I'll ask him later. But I'm pretty sure this is correct...

The engine is a '66 NASCAR sideoiler 427.

The parts (Magnesium wheels, suspension, drivetrain, gearbox, etc.) are etiher from an original 427 or from a NASCAR car as well. (I couldn't tell you the difference between them, to be honest.)

The body is either a kit, or a restored '67, I don't know. I do know the origial body was dissintegrating and pretty much HAD to be replaced.

It runs on 94 ocatane, like I said. However, he can swap high compression pistons and more agrassive cams and stuff in (which he has) and run it on 114 octacne (same fuel airplanes use?) if he chooses. Right now his engine would be making quite a bit more hp/tq. than a standard 427 (400hp/425tq, IIRC). With the better internals swapped in he says it should make "about 700hp."

Let me say, I don't want to be anywhere near tat car when its making 700 hp. Ever. Even now, its old suspension tech. makes it frightning to drive.
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Old 07-18-2003, 03:32 PM   #10
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I NEED 94 octane... my car was Ecutek tuned for it.

I am hoping that the lady just gave you some BS, as I don't want to have to run a new map for 93.

-Bob
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Old 07-18-2003, 03:45 PM   #11
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I use 93 from Mobil and like it better than the 94 at Sunoco.

I can choose since both stations are across the street from each other in my town.

FYI - My Prelude runs better on Mobil 93 than it does on Sunoco 94. I'm glad I also have a busy town, so I never get stale sitting gas.
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Old 07-18-2003, 04:05 PM   #12
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I don't know how much of it is original off the top of my head, I'll ask him later. But I'm pretty sure this is correct...

The engine is a '66 NASCAR sideoiler 427.

The parts (Magnesium wheels, suspension, drivetrain, gearbox, etc.) are etiher from an original 427 or from a NASCAR car as well. (I couldn't tell you the difference between them, to be honest.)

The body is either a kit, or a restored '67, I don't know. I do know the origial body was dissintegrating and pretty much HAD to be replaced.

It runs on 94 ocatane, like I said. However, he can swap high compression pistons and more agrassive cams and stuff in (which he has) and run it on 114 octacne (same fuel airplanes use?) if he chooses. Right now his engine would be making quite a bit more hp/tq. than a standard 427 (400hp/425tq, IIRC). With the better internals swapped in he says it should make "about 700hp."

Let me say, I don't want to be anywhere near tat car when its making 700 hp. Ever. Even now, its old suspension tech. makes it frightning to drive.
prob. a kit. no shame there. an original body would be aluminum and it would be pretty dented up by now. An original S/C is worth $300-$500K and you would have to be pretty well off to drive it on the road the way it was meant to be driven. A kit will drive as well if not better and you can enjoy it without worrying. A lot of people are using Nascar engines, thing is anything above 500hp in that layout(rwd engine upfrt) is wheelspin in lke the first 2 gears. Have you driven it?
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Old 07-18-2003, 04:08 PM   #13
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I use 93 from Mobil and like it better than the 94 at Sunoco.

I can choose since both stations are across the street from each other in my town.

FYI - My Prelude runs better on Mobil 93 than it does on Sunoco 94. I'm glad I also have a busy town, so I never get stale sitting gas.
Unless your car can utilize higher octane (i.e. adaptive ECU, retuned ECU, UTEC, etc.), your car will run more poorly on the higher octane gasoline.

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Old 07-18-2003, 04:26 PM   #14
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prob. a kit. no shame there. an original body would be aluminum and it would be pretty dented up by now. An original S/C is worth $300-$500K and you would have to be pretty well off to drive it on the road the way it was meant to be driven. A kit will drive as well if not better and you can enjoy it without worrying. A lot of people are using Nascar engines, thing is anything above 500hp in that layout(rwd engine upfrt) is wheelspin in lke the first 2 gears. Have you driven it?
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Haven't driven it yet. Just learned stick earlier this summer and the car stays stored durring winter. Now that you mention it, it is due for its summer shakedown run. Perhaps this weekend...

I don't think the body is aluminum, but it may be fiberglass. The doors, hood and trunk are all very light.

To clarify on its originality, the car is my stepdads, so I havn't been around it very long, which is why I don't know anyhting about it. My understanding is, he bought an original with a NASCAR engine, but the car was in bad shape. He sent it to someone who got the new body for him. That is why I believe much of the car is original. Like I said, I will be able to tell you more when I get off work.

Oh, and while I haven't driven it, I can personaly testify to its ability to spin its tires in 2nd gear.
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Old 07-18-2003, 06:06 PM   #15
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Still plenty of 94 in my area.
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