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Old 07-20-2003, 01:55 PM   #1
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I have done a lot of reading about zaino and have decided to try instead of the turtle wax I was using. Here is my purchase and the order I plan to apply things.

All input would be greatly appreciated.

Purchase:
ZFX
Z2
Claybar

Order I will do things in:
Clean Car
Clay car using mothers lubricant and zaino claybar
Rinse Car
1 layer of Z2 with ZFX (2 if needed)
1 layer of Meguiars Wax on top

Good? Bad?
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Old 07-20-2003, 01:59 PM   #2
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just do 2 layers of Z2 instead of the mothers was. I dont think its a good idea mixing the two.
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Old 07-20-2003, 02:03 PM   #3
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What about protection of the paint. I know it makes it shiny I am just leery about the protection of the paint. Since zaino is only a polish does it protect as good as a wax? From what I read I heard very different statements. Some say it still needs a wax while others say the polish replaces wax.

I just want a shiny paint that will look new for years, however I get that.
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Old 07-20-2003, 03:27 PM   #4
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What about protection of the paint. I know it makes it shiny I am just leery about the protection of the paint. Since zaino is only a polish does it protect as good as a wax? From what I read I heard very different statements. Some say it still needs a wax while others say the polish replaces wax.

I just want a shiny paint that will look new for years, however I get that.
Zaino will protect your paint for 6-12 months. It offers just about the best protection you can get for your vehicle, but it gets pricey.

Zaino mislabels their polymer sealants as "polish". To everyone else in the auto world, "polish" implies a mechanically or chemically abrasive substance that smooths out the top layer of clearcoat. Their "polish" is actually a synthetic wax that will outlast all natural waxes. I'm sure you will not be disappointed with Zaino on your car.

Again, don't use the Meguiar's on top. It will mute the shine of the Zaino, and make it less reflective.

BTW, I'm surprised you did not get Z5 or Z7 with your order. Unless your paint is absolutely swirl free, a few layers of Z5 are probably necessary to hide the microswirls you have in your paint. Z7 is probably one of the best carwashes out there, and it will renew the Zaino on the surface each time you wash.

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Old 07-20-2003, 03:38 PM   #5
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I haven't actually made the order yet....

I have a silver car and I haven't noticed many swirls but is it something that I still need to get?

What is the difference between like turtle car wash and zaino car wash when I am just going to be claying it again anyway? Do I really need to buy zaino wash or can I just use the regular car wash stuff.
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Old 07-20-2003, 07:01 PM   #6
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Zaino will protect your paint for 6-12 months. It offers just about the best protection you can get for your vehicle, but it gets pricey.

Zaino mislabels their polymer sealants as "polish". To everyone else in the auto world, "polish" implies a mechanically or chemically abrasive substance that smooths out the top layer of clearcoat. Their "polish" is actually a synthetic wax that will outlast all natural waxes. I'm sure you will not be disappointed with Zaino on your car.

Again, don't use the Meguiar's on top. It will mute the shine of the Zaino, and make it less reflective.

BTW, I'm surprised you did not get Z5 or Z7 with your order. Unless your paint is absolutely swirl free, a few layers of Z5 are probably necessary to hide the microswirls you have in your paint. Z7 is probably one of the best carwashes out there, and it will renew the Zaino on the surface each time you wash.

-Bob
I completely agree with Bob's comments. However, I would add that Z6 is also an important addition to the process. Zaino recommends using Z6 between coats and after the last one. Also, it works great as quick detailer in between waxings. Z6 (as with Z2, Z5, Z7, etc) are all made to be compatible with one another. Not only is adding another type of wax unneccessary, but you'll probably screw up the finish you get with the Zaino. I've used Z5, Z2, and Z6 with great results. I want to add a couple more coats of Z5 to take out a few more "spiderwebs" and buff marks. After a couple more Z2 coats over that, I think my paint will look just the way I want it to.

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Old 07-20-2003, 07:06 PM   #7
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Do I really need to buy zaino wash or can I just use the regular car wash stuff.
.....Zaino makes all of their products compatible with one another. If you use something else, who knows what the results would be. I used Meguires car wash this weekend (didn't get my order in for the Zaino wash). It looks alright, but I'm still going to order Zaino's.
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Old 07-20-2003, 09:33 PM   #8
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I wish I could get everything they have but I am trying to do this on a college students budget

The new order will most likely be:
Z2
Z6
ZFX
Claybar

I wouldn't mind getting the Z5 but since I have a silver car that just got a whole new paint job about two months ago I don't really need the Z5 right now. I will later. I also won't get the car wash since I already have car wash stuff so I can save a few more bucks. As it is I will be paying around 60 for all this.

Also has anyone actually noticed a difference with or without the ZFX. I don't mind waiting a little longer if it will look the same.
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Old 07-20-2003, 11:59 PM   #9
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Any other input....I am going to be ordering in about 30 mins
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Old 07-21-2003, 01:19 AM   #10
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Make sure you are getting the new reformulated Zaino. Just came out a few weeks ago. Better shine, slicker look, etc, you get the pic. I can't wait. And your list seems about right. I'd get an extra applicator pad. If I love a product, it's the Z-6. It goes along way to do such a great job. And I would use the ZFX, since it's the first time. You don't need to get thier car wash, but use Dawn the first time to remove any previous wax. Hope that helps. Now Zaino away!

A tip: There is no such thing as too many coats of Zaino.
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Old 07-21-2003, 01:24 AM   #11
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Another quick question....I just got a clearbra put on the hood about two weeks ago. I know I am not supposed to clay it and I can wax it but I wanted to see if there was anything else I needed to do to keep it looking good like the rest of the paint.
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Old 07-21-2003, 02:40 PM   #12
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Old 07-21-2003, 03:05 PM   #13
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Buy Z6! Wash with dawn first. I love the Zaino wash, it seems to clean my car a little better than mequires did. Also, I'd imagine it's formulated to not remove your layers of Zaino as easily. Who knows.

I've never used Zaino without ZFX, but I like only waiting 30 min for it to cure, so I won't change.
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Old 09-14-2003, 09:53 PM   #14
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i think a downside with ZFX (haven't used it, just thinking about it) would be that all the unused mix gets wasted... is that true? so the efficiency of coverage you get with only needing small amounts of Zaino is kind of gone
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Old 09-14-2003, 10:03 PM   #15
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i think a downside with ZFX (haven't used it, just thinking about it) would be that all the unused mix gets wasted... is that true? so the efficiency of coverage you get with only needing small amounts of Zaino is kind of gone
I use the remaining amount on the hood and "top" surfaces. If only a tiny bit is left, I'll use it on my Ronal's (wheels). I never waste.
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Old 09-15-2003, 10:29 AM   #16
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Zaino says to use ZFX every 10 coats of Z2 that you put on the car. Just remeber to let it cure for 24hrs before adding another layer of Z2 (if your not using ZFX)

Check out this Zaino Manual from Autopia

You can top Zaino with a carnuba wax, if you like, The only downfall is that you have to remove all the wax prior to applying another coat of Z to the car.

Another inportant thing to remeber is to use THIN but even coats of Z on the car. It's a misconception that more is better in the waxing process. More is not better.

Also, I'd invest in a few Microfiber towels for the wax removal and buffing purposes.

enjoy and post pics when your done.

pics of a recent detail I did

There's Z2/ZFX and S100, a carnuba wax topper (the car was going to a show this past weekend,and I wanted to give it a bit more depth.)

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