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Old 07-21-2003, 05:21 AM   #1
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i managed to burn my clutch probably 6 times by now . i didnt see smoke or anything but i distinctively know the smell of my clutch by now. i was just wondering whether anyone knew how strong the STi clutch was and when average drivers will have to change them at a certain mileage?
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Old 07-21-2003, 07:44 AM   #2
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from what i was told the clutch is incredibly strong and virtually unbreakable. i guess u can actually shift without putting in the clutch, u just have to ram the shifter into gears. this is just what i was told so no one kill the messenger.
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Old 07-21-2003, 08:23 AM   #3
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from what i was told the clutch is incredibly strong and virtually unbreakable. i guess u can actually shift without putting in the clutch, u just have to ram the shifter into gears. this is just what i was told so no one kill the messenger.
errr. if you're trying to shift like that you're not using the clutch.... uhhh ... don't... (unless you can rev match)
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Old 07-21-2003, 09:21 AM   #4
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errr. if you're trying to shift like that you're not using the clutch.... uhhh ... don't... (unless you can rev match)
i would never even think of it and i don't think anyone would. it was just the point that the car is built so well that u wouldn't even need to put in the clutch to shift. just what i was told, nothing i would have even thought about.
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Old 07-21-2003, 09:50 AM   #5
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You can clutchless shift any car. My clutch went out in my MG and didn't have the money to fix it for a week or so. I would start it in first gear with the starter and no clutch!!! Then shift normally.
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Old 07-21-2003, 10:16 AM   #6
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i cant even slide the shifter out of gear 9/10 times. i think maybe the tranny still needs to loosen up a bit. i used to be able to clutchless shift my miata...but i dont feel like taking the chance with the STi. i would rather buy 4 clutches than buy 1 tranny.
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Old 07-21-2003, 10:23 AM   #7
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Same here. I dunno if its me, but it takes more effort for 1-2 and 5-4 than it does the other shifts
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Old 07-21-2003, 01:20 PM   #8
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I dunno if its me, but it takes more effort for 1-2 and 5-4 than it does the other shifts
All transmissions are stiff in the beginning, even the "jewel-like" honda. The shifter and effort will reduce in stiffness over time. On the clutch... Since there isn't much need to get a launch in the STi, the clutch shouldn't need to be abused to get power off the line.
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Old 07-21-2003, 06:27 PM   #9
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test drive a ferrari and then you'll know how hard (physically) changing gears can be...
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Old 07-21-2003, 07:33 PM   #10
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test drive a ferrari and then you'll know how hard (physically) changing gears can be...
or better yet.

watch those poor brits trying to shift or "weight lifting" the Lambo Diablo in TopGear.


as Jeremy said... you ll need both hands and get your passenger to help out....
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Old 07-23-2003, 09:39 AM   #11
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i managed to burn my clutch probably 6 times by now . i didnt see smoke or anything but i distinctively know the smell of my clutch by now. i was just wondering whether anyone knew how strong the STi clutch was and when average drivers will have to change them at a certain mileage?
With 300 ft/lbs of torque and much of it available at low RPM's, why are you burning the clutch?

Granted, in the OLD WRX I would get a little stink now and then on autocross launches, but even that was driver error on my part. In the STi, I have not had any problem getting catapult launches without abusing the clutch.

What gives?
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Old 07-23-2003, 10:00 AM   #12
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Yep, the only time I smell the clutch in either my wagon or STi is when I slip it too much. A good launch and you won't smell anything.

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Old 07-23-2003, 01:18 PM   #13
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i managed to burn my clutch probably 6 times by now . i didnt see smoke or anything but i distinctively know the smell of my clutch by now. i was just wondering whether anyone knew how strong the STi clutch was and when average drivers will have to change them at a certain mileage?
How strong is the Sti clutch? That will depend on how you use/abuse it. A clutch can last for a day or for years..
I heard too that the Sti clutch is very stong. Don't abuse it, figure out how to properly launch your car and it will last a long time.

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In the STi, I have not had any problem getting catapult launches without abusing the clutch.
How are you launching? I have done this twice by accident. It felt awesome - what a holeshot. Being that this is my first AWD car and that it's not broken in yet, it was sort of accidental. Please inform us.
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Old 07-24-2003, 03:09 PM   #15
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How are you launching? I have done this twice by accident. It felt awesome - what a holeshot. Being that this is my first AWD car and that it's not broken in yet, it was sort of accidental. Please inform us.
Autocross is different than drag racing, of course, and my technique won't serve you well on the drag strip. In autox they say, "Go when ready!"

When I get the 'go when ready' sign, I generally put about 4k on the tach and let the clutch out until I feel it just begin to drag a bit. At that point I simultaneously floor it and let the cluth out completely and quickly. I am always prepped to push the clutch in a bit if I get a BIG bog, but with the STi, it rarely happens. The old WRX would often bog unless you were close to perfect.

I get just the slightest hint of wheelspin this way and I'm grabbing for second gear almost immediately. 1st gear feels SO short, but it's actually taller than the WRX.

It would be interesting to compare the techniques of the good drag racers in here to mine.

Teach me guys/gals!
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