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Old 07-21-2003, 09:44 PM   #1
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Thumbs up Kartboy Shifter bushings in my XT

Finally got my shifter bushings in my XT details at this link:

http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/sho...=7510#post7510




Much better, I need to get a KB short shifter in there too, I'm working on that. My daughter loves the new shifter feel so much she got new ink!

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Old 07-22-2003, 12:23 AM   #2
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Gee Peat, all she needs is a beer in her hand, and we can be hit for all kinds of child endangerment charges. Thanks for the update. New Forester lever should be on its way soon.


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Old 07-22-2003, 12:50 AM   #3
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Nice job on the install peaty. I look forward to seeing many more mods from you
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Old 07-22-2003, 12:57 AM   #4
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HeeHee East Windsor? I use to live there many moons ago and Heightstown and Trenton. Sorry I digress...
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Old 07-22-2003, 01:26 AM   #5
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HeeHee East Windsor? I use to live there many moons ago and Heightstown and Trenton. Sorry I digress...
Ah yes...East Windsor....Hightstown....Jerseys finest

Its a shame you left!

I would be nice to have another Forester owner who loves horsepower like I do around here
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Old 07-22-2003, 01:34 AM   #6
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"What Trenton Makes, the World Takes"

Yea I miss driving the Brat through the pine barrons. I don't miss the traffic though. I use to work at General Foods when there was such a thing. Now I think it's rhone Palonk (SP?)
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Old 07-22-2003, 11:02 AM   #7
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Peaty,

Do you have any first hand experience comparing the feel of the KB bushings to the bushing provided with the STI short throw shifter? This weekend I transplanted my STI STS that I had scavenged from my WRX before I traded it in for the XT. I noticed that there wasn't a whole lot of difference between the stock XT bushings and the STI part. Do the KB bushings give a more positive 'click' when moving into gear? Or do they just clean up a little bit of slop in the system?

Overall the STI shifter in my XT feels pretty good; it's almost identical to my old 02 WRX. It's a quick and significant improvement over the stock setup.
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Old 07-22-2003, 12:20 PM   #8
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I've replaced the STi bushings in a local guy's set-up and it does make the shifting less vague. I liken it to a rifle bolt action, very positive. Others call it notchy but we argue over symantics

I drove to work today with my new bushings and I have to say I'm very happy w/ the feel . I can tell where the gears are now. The throws are still a little long for me though so I'm going to replace the lever soon too.

Have a look here and you can see my comparo of the bushings:

http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/sho...?s=&threadid=6

The only difference w/ the STi and KB bushings over the KB setup w/ bushings is the STi has the shift knob at stock height where as the KB shifter has it sit lower. Throws are similar though. Here it's a matter of personel preference (not taking into account cost). Do you want the knob lower or not? There are other things people have commented on w/ the KB shifter. Since the lever is shorter the force needed to shift increases a little. After an afternoon of shifting you don't notice though IMHO, so that's not a big deal. My wife didn't even notice any difference there until I mentioned it. Another thing is with the change in angle of the shifter rod people have had the rod contact the shifter plate in first gear and get a slight rattle. That's easly solved by taking 5 minutes and just flipping the plate 180.

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Having said all that I've asked Mark to think about making a stock height shift knob version of the KB SS, because of the way the Forester seat is I don't think a short guy like me will like the way the regular KB shifter sits so low. On my RS it was fine. Anyway we'll see.


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Old 07-23-2003, 04:34 AM   #9
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Kartboy bushings, along with Whiteline steering rack bushings, are the two mods EVERY Subaru owner should do (mostly because they both do so much for so little cost)
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Old 07-23-2003, 11:18 AM   #10
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Tell me more about the rack bushings, aren't those a PITA to install? Not that that has stopped me from doing anything before. Just wondering.

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I assume the rack bushings supply extra road feel to the wheel. Any other benefits?
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Folks, will Kartboy Shifter Bushings for RS 00 fit XT 04 ?
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Old 07-23-2003, 11:17 PM   #13
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yes they are the same
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Old 07-24-2003, 04:13 AM   #14
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Tell me more about the rack bushings, aren't those a PITA to install? Not that that has stopped me from doing anything before. Just wondering.

Peaty
You just have to know how to do it right Ive done it on basically every kind of Impreza now, and ive looked under foresters and legacys and its all the same. The driver side is the only problem, and its not that much of a problem... Theres a fat post about them over on the suspension forum and how to install them easiest (among other info about them)

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I assume the rack bushings supply extra road feel to the wheel. Any other benefits?
Reduces memory steer, makes the wheel snap back into postion faster, all feel stuff but for $20 it does quite a bit
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Old 07-25-2003, 09:14 AM   #15
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I have to mention this. My wife and I switched cars today, it's the first time she's gotten to drive the XT. She left me a voice mail before I got to work. She was like "Wow - you're right it's quick, and it shifts so nice I can't believe it. No problems getting use to shifting it or anything, very easy I like it!."

If that doesn't say something about the bushing install I don't know what does. This is not something she would typically comment on that's for sure. The bad thing is she's gonna want my XT more
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Old 07-25-2003, 09:22 AM   #16
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I'm sold... I'll order 'em up today.

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Old 07-25-2003, 09:35 AM   #17
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I say invest in a set of Rino-Ramps or something like that. they are good for all sorts of stuff. Or you can do what some people do, drive one side of the car up on a curb, getto but it works
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Old 07-25-2003, 03:53 PM   #18
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Rhino Ramps are $30-35, you can even find them at WalMart or KMart. Totally worth it the first time you use it. It's safer plus they are easier to use, and most lowered cars can get up them.

Wear eye protection if you will be under the vehicle.

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Old 07-25-2003, 04:39 PM   #19
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Actually, I installed my STI short throw without jacking up the XT at all! That's something my 220 lb. frame just couldn't dream of with the WRX Wagon.

Everything in the shifter area is pretty open, and ground clearance on the XT is just right for slipping under. Try it -- you might just save yourself on the price of the ramps.
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Old 07-25-2003, 05:58 PM   #20
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I'm a little guy and I'm sure I could have done the install w/o the ramps. But I have to say it made it easier plus I had to take pics and I was showing my daughter what I was doing ( I let her turn the ratchet - gotta start them young)
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