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Old 07-22-2003, 01:37 PM   #1
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Default What HID level setting do you drive around with at night?

I was wondering what level people are using for the lights.

Why would I need to change the angle?

I would think, if it's foggy out aiming the lights down will help the glare and reflection.

I'll most likely drive with them aimed all the way up as high as it can go.
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Old 07-22-2003, 01:51 PM   #2
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You should adjust the lights so they do not blind oncoming drivers. Adjusting the all the way to their highest setting may be too high in your car, and if so you are a danger on the road--blinding other drivers. This is certainly true if you have 1 or more passengers or if you are carrying anything in the trunk.

The best way to find the best setting is to have a friend drive towards you at night with your lights at various heights and report when he was blinded by the glare. Then never set your lights above the point where you blind drivers.
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Old 07-22-2003, 02:07 PM   #3
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The best way to find the best setting is to have a friend drive towards you at night with your lights at various heights and report when he was blinded by the glare. Then never set your lights above the point where you blind drivers.
Uhm... and the friend should be in a car with typical ride height. Not an SUV.
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Old 07-22-2003, 02:23 PM   #4
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even the highst level isn't that high. right?
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Old 07-22-2003, 02:35 PM   #5
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The highest level seems higher than most headlights. I know I've gotten flashed on the second to highest setting. I usually have it 2nd from the bottom for city driving and at dusk all the way down.

I set the HID settings with what the driving environment requires.
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Old 07-22-2003, 02:59 PM   #6
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I always set it at 0, the highest setting. It doesn't look that high to me and I've never been flashed. Even with three other people in my car I haven't notice any appreciable change headlight pattern distribution.

I would like a -1 or -2 setting for entertainment purposes only.
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Old 07-22-2003, 03:17 PM   #7
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the "NORMAL" setting is "0" (zero).

The normal setting applies for 1 or 2 passengers and 2 small adults on back. As you add weight in the TRUNK you might need to lower the beam to 1 or 2. There should be no need to the "3" settings as you would need some crazy weight added to teh trunk. This settings was mainly created for projector-type headlamp where the focused light could be harmfull for incoming traffic, on the reflector-type lamps, the light is not as focused as to cause harmful glare.

Bottom line, drive @ ZERO under normal circustances.
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Old 07-22-2003, 03:39 PM   #8
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I use "3" for DRL (driving during the day) but set to 1 or 0 at night.
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Old 07-22-2003, 04:12 PM   #9
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I agree I set mine so it does not blind people (Damn people that flash you because you have HID kits and they think their high beams )
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Old 07-22-2003, 05:00 PM   #10
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I've looked to see if the HIDs blind and they don't. 0 is level.

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Old 07-22-2003, 05:22 PM   #11
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Lightbulb How not to blind people with STI HID's

To be most effective for me as well as courteous & safe for oncoming drivers I do the following;

* When following behind another car on a street or highway I turn mine down to the lowest setting (I've forgotten which number is which). I do this so as not to blind the driver directly in front of me as HID's do in fact blind many people and/or temporarily ruin their night vision. They give off at light at a different & wider spectrum than conventional Halogen whihc everyone is now used to.

* When following behind another car on a highway and I would like to pass, rather than flashing them and further adding to the light nuisance, I simply bring the lights up to the highest setting (which so far nearly _everyone_ takes to be a 'high-beam' flash) followed by a blinker and quickly accelerate to pass.
Upon finsihing my pass and tucking in behind another vehcile I simply turn the lights back down to their low/lowest setting.

* When driving alone (no other cars on the road) and/or as the lead car on the streets (non-highway), I set my lights to the medium/middle value so as not to blind oncoming traffic. There are _plenty_ of lights on the streets and throughfares from street lamps to building lights to the light from other cars on the road. I can see fine without needing to be set at the highest setting.

* When driving alone and/or as the lead car on a highway/interstate I set my lights to the middle or highest setting as appropriate for the road & conditions. If I come upon a car in my lnae (directly in front of me) I turn them down to the lowest setting. When cars begin coming at me from the opposite side of the road I again turn them down a notch or two if appropriate and safe.

* I only use my high beams when alone and travelling on deserted streets and/or highways. I have not used the high beams for 'flash to pass' reasons as its not been necessary as per my statement above.

Following the above rules during my trip home from NY to VA through four states and 80% of that trip was at night across both highways & streets I found almost everyone reacted positively to my above regimen. Even truckers in semi's reacted positively.

For those of you that do not believe that HID's are bright and can blind you, I strongly encourage you to stand and observe your own lights from a typical following distance (8-20 feet). Those lights are bright. And for you young folk who have corneas that react instantly to supress light from blinding you, well great for you.

But for those drivers who are older (30+ yrs/old), or smoke, or drink, or those who are taking any kind of medication/drugs, or who are not in the best of nutritional shape, or have a diagnosed (or more commonly undiagnosed) case of macular degeneration, or wear contacts all day and into the night (tired eyes!), or work at a PC screen all day, or read print all day, or drive with a less than perfectly clean windshield (dirt & grime makes the light even worst!), or who don't wear their sunglasses/BlueBlockers at night, or if you are diabetic...then you should know that you are in the majority of drivers out there and as such anyone of the above items/maldies/habits and more can and do affect the ability of your eyes to quickly and/or properly to light in general and various spectrum's of light in specific.

Some of you may know I'm real mad about folks that drive around with their dang fog (yellow/amber) and/or driving lights (clear/white) on along with conventional or worst HID's on. The same effect occurs and I as well as _a great number of drivers_ are blinded by such inconsiderate practices. And further, people do and have wrecked just from being blinded by light from other folks.

Somebodies mother, father, child or grandparents maybe returning home from a trip to Blocbuster and you wouldn't want to be the one to cause them to wreck becuase your HID's are set too high even though they look "cool". Please keep this in mind as you drive and remember that we all share the roads, not own them.

- Janq

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Old 07-22-2003, 05:23 PM   #12
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The one thing I don't like about our adjustable HID's is the placement of the adjuster switch as its too out of the way.

I'm going to look into moving it next to the DCCD (Auto/Manu) switch on the arm rest. From there it should be much easier to use.

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Old 07-22-2003, 05:56 PM   #13
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Janq,

Very nice description of your technique, your a driver that we like on the road.
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Old 07-22-2003, 08:51 PM   #14
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Janq,

Thanks for your post... now if we could only teach the rest of the country about light etiquette...
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Old 07-22-2003, 10:41 PM   #15
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Just use your best judgement. If you are driving into traffic, angle them down some. If you are on a lone road, that is twisty, with no traffic, give yourself some visibility. If on a well lit road and have oncoming traffic, you obviously don't need to have them angled up.
I don't see why its important to know what settings other's use. It will only matter to your individual situation. Its effortless to change it anyway, so its not like its a big deal either.

Pointless thead.

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Old 07-22-2003, 11:06 PM   #16
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Today was the first night with my STI. I was anxious to test the lights because I live in an area where there are no street lights and is infested with deer. Previously I drove the WRX with morettes headlights and HID’s. I took a lot of care in aiming these HID’s so I know they were well set and I was not flashed in the over six months that I used them. The lights in the STI at the highest setting , 0 , are lower than morettes as seen on the pavement in front of me. In addition I would say they have “slightly” less light output then aftermarket. I think that setting ,0, would be just fine for normal driving. Under special circumstances, as mentioned above, I could see where it would be helpful to lower them. I also found in the STI that the High beam light was superior to that of morettes with HID.
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have them on 0 and haven't been flashed at all yet.
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I control all your bases at level 0.
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Old 07-23-2003, 01:36 AM   #20
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OK got my STi.

I like it at 0, all the way high up.
Stock my sisters IS300 is high as mine at 0.

Maybe if I get some rear passengers I'll aim accordingly.

Thanks for everyones input.
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Old 07-23-2003, 09:37 AM   #21
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Today was the first night with my STI. I was anxious to test the lights because I live in an area where there are no street lights and is infested with deer. Previously I drove the WRX with morettes headlights and HID’s. I took a lot of care in aiming these HID’s so I know they were well set and I was not flashed in the over six months that I used them. The lights in the STI at the highest setting , 0 , are lower than morettes as seen on the pavement in front of me. In addition I would say they have “slightly” less light output then aftermarket. I think that setting ,0, would be just fine for normal driving. Under special circumstances, as mentioned above, I could see where it would be helpful to lower them. I also found in the STI that the High beam light was superior to that of morettes with HID.
I can reflect those sentiments. I have an aftermarket system on my Celica and the 0 setting of the STi's HID is a very conservative pattern. If people are flashing you with your lights set to level 0, they aren't used to HIDs. Granted we have a reflector system which 'leaks' more light than projector systems, our lights aren't that bright by HID standards.
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All your base belong to us!
Close, actually it's:

All your base are belong to us!
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Old 07-23-2003, 11:34 AM   #23
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Close, actually it's:

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What's that from?
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Old 07-23-2003, 11:57 AM   #24
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Default Re: How not to blind people with STI HID's

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Some of you may know I'm real mad about folks that drive around with their dang fog (yellow/amber) and/or driving lights (clear/white) on along with conventional or worst HID's on. The same effect occurs and I as well as _a great number of drivers_ are blinded by such inconsiderate practices. And further, people do and have wrecked just from being blinded by light from other folks.

....

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...6-07-xenon.htm]
Blinded? I agree driving around with the HID level set to 0 during the day is probably not a great idea, but here is a little more about HIDs and "glare" and the real causes, for your reading.

http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf82/176157_web.pdf

PS it wasn't written by USA Today, but by a lighting engineer.

PPS I need to get some fogs installed in my STi so I can drive around with them on during the day like I did in my RS and WRX.
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Old 07-23-2003, 12:57 PM   #25
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For the first time since I got my STi, someone flashed their lights at me (last night). A popeyed 2G Eclipse flashed its lights at me, so I flashed mine back...not intending to blind them, although their course reflected some swerving after my flash.

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