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Old 07-25-2003, 03:47 AM   #26
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Ok, I went to Lowes and Home Depot and the only thing I found even remotely close to that was this rolled up semi-foamy bag of sealant that LOOKED like that but was super-soft and way to flexible for a lip...
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Old 07-25-2003, 11:10 AM   #27
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...the only thing I found even remotely close to that was this rolled up semi-foamy bag of sealant that LOOKED like that but was super-soft and way to flexible for a lip...
It may suffice in the sense of reducing the amount of air flow. I know the one I got is somewhat soft too, but the thickness makes up for it. If you push on to it, it will deform, but it won't fold over. Here's how the cross section looks on mine:
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Old 07-25-2003, 01:39 PM   #28
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Thumbs up Survived the first incident...

This is by no means a solid proof on the lip's durability, but I thought it may be interesting to post anyway. Just this morning I ran over a small branch on the highway. It wasn't a big branch, but big enough to make a noticeable impact sound when it hit the bumper cover and underbody. It seemed to have hit the right side of the bumper cover and the neoprene lip. Here is a photo I took just this morning. The neoprene lip has no scratch marks, but there are some dirt marks from the branch grazing it. It's not visible on the picture below. A bit of wet towel will remove all the marks made by the branch on the neoprene lip.

You can see leaves (circled) that get caught between the fog trim & the bumper cover, and between the neoprene lip & bumper cover. In retrospect, I would've been worried had it been a fiberglass or carbon fiber lip.
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Old 07-25-2003, 03:32 PM   #29
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Updated 3rd post with photos of the side, cross section of the neoprene piece, and bottom view.
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Old 07-25-2003, 07:43 PM   #30
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Where did you get the fog trim, I have never seen that, it looks very nice!
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Old 07-25-2003, 11:19 PM   #31
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Where did you get the fog trim...
Here's how to get a fog trim like that:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=330937

But if you're not into DIY, there's one somewhat similar (conceptwise at least) by Lester. www.nopionline.com carries it, afaik.
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Old 07-26-2003, 01:27 AM   #32
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It may suffice in the sense of reducing the amount of air flow. I know the one I got is somewhat soft too, but the thickness makes up for it. If you push on to it, it will deform, but it won't fold over. Here's how the cross section looks on mine:
Ya, thats the stuff I found... I thought it was gonna be thicker rubber not foamy stuff
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Old 07-26-2003, 02:01 AM   #33
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Ya, thats the stuff I found... I thought it was gonna be thicker rubber not foamy stuff
Afaik, neoprene doesn't get any stiffer than that.

One way to make the shape hold better, is to place a similar or stiffer material behind it. I initially planned on doing that, but after bolting and making the neoprene follow the bumper cover curvature, it had the right amount of stiffness (from the curb-proof perspective). Since you already have the material, perhaps you can try it on and add reinforcement material if needed.
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Old 07-26-2003, 11:31 AM   #34
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Anyone have any luck finding that part on the nopi site?
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Old 07-26-2003, 06:11 PM   #35
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Anyone have any luck finding that part on the nopi site?
My bad. They used to list that fog trim as well as some other parts. They are listed as Erebuni parts, because afaik, Erebuni imports Lester (of Italy) products to the US. But I recall someone posting a USDM WRX with that fog trim, so, at some point in the past, it used to be available. Perhaps there wasn't enough interest in it.
Well, the DIY isn't that hard
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Old 07-29-2003, 10:34 PM   #36
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I guess I live too far south for neoprene door seals. Did find this at McMaster-Carr. Looks like the same, is it?

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Old 07-29-2003, 11:40 PM   #37
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I guess I live too far south for neoprene door seals. Did find this at McMaster-Carr. Looks like the same, is it?

Neoprene Garage Door Sealer
Prior to locating mine at Home Depot, that one from mcmaster was the one I had in mind. Based on the description, Model 4 (part # 8121A11, 9ft long) is similar or identical to what I got at Home Depot.

Just one note though, as it is neoprene, don't expect fiberglass stiff (although it won't be crack-prone like fiberglass either). So, if you want to stiffen it more, you may need to fill the gap with other material. There must be some foam or rubber strip that is thick enough for reinforcement. I think I recall seeing something that will do the trick at mcmaster. It had a self-adhesive tape too. Good luck. Post some photos afterwards maybe.
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Old 07-29-2005, 03:12 AM   #38
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someone do it on an 04+. i'm thinking about it but i'm curious to see how it would look first. i guess i'm not a confident DIYer. haha.
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:19 AM   #39
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any words of wisdom for good hardware to bolt this up?
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:44 AM   #40
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On a cold and lonely night nobody can hear a sad boy cry
....in teh gettooo, ....in teh gettoooooo
Dang, just looking at that I can hear gun shots in the background, come own.
No carbon fiber, how can a brotha keep it real!

Ok, ok... Just kidding its a cool concept in a Macgyver sort of way. Keep on spooling dawg. Yeah, yeah.
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as if explaning how a newer driver ie., someone under 24, might possibly want replaceable protection for an often abused curb-finder,
or the fact that there is indeed carbon fiber here on said car would make any difference in my admiration for your ability to hold back sarcasm and be genuinly helpful.
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Old 12-16-2005, 04:10 AM   #42
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...that's what she said last night.

Oh, and if you're worried about scraping, practice parking. Really, I've seen way too many cars ruined by "young" drivers and their mad skills.
Just like my old WWII pal Lefty would say, "If you're not sure where you're stepping, then .....BAANNNGGG!!!!

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Old 12-16-2005, 04:59 AM   #43
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i like this idea and i may do it to my car. seeing as my car actually gets driven in the snow/ice/dirt this seems very practical.

now i can have a lip and rallycross too.

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Old 12-16-2005, 05:14 AM   #44
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looks very nice. The nicest looking DIY lip I've seen. good job!
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Old 12-24-2005, 02:15 AM   #45
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Thanks for the opinions, whatever they are. I won't go into the debate of whether this DIY looks good etc.

Regarding mounting hardware, it is best to distribute the load by using several fasteners. If you're using nut & bolt, a wide washer helps a lot. A better option would be to fabricate a splitter-like washer that goes all the way on the bottom of the horizontal part of the lip imho.
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Old 02-22-2006, 12:19 AM   #46
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This will be my next exterior mod...

Satrya, any issue in terms of durability of material, etc? I am going to Lowe's tomorrow to look for this material. Any idea what it is called? neoprene door seals?
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Old 02-22-2006, 01:06 AM   #47
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i used Frost King garage door sealant trim, it was fairly cheap and made of medium hardness rubber... a little deeper black in color and a little more substantial.
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Old 02-22-2006, 01:09 AM   #48
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Is that FKGDST available at Lowe's? you got any picture available?
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Old 02-22-2006, 01:14 AM   #49
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not a bad idea. might have to try this myself, being such a cheap mod. hell, if i dont like it -- ill just buy a real one haha
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Old 02-22-2006, 01:27 AM   #50
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i made one too but i used one that was all rubber. its more durable but it tends to crinkle on the the corners of the bumper
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