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Old 07-24-2003, 06:39 PM   #1
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Where can I buy the latest Borla headers (gen. 4?) for a '00 RS?
Who has the best price on it?
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Old 07-24-2003, 07:04 PM   #2
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Old 07-24-2003, 09:33 PM   #3
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^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

..What Albert Said..
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Old 07-24-2003, 10:59 PM   #4
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I remember when these were like $500 AND they cracked..............what a great deal!
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Old 07-25-2003, 02:31 AM   #5
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Just had mine put on about a week ago...love them!!! Can't wait to get my other exhaust pieces so it sounds cool!

Actually I got mine from subarustore.com. Same price as rallitek too I think....
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Old 07-25-2003, 08:34 AM   #6
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www.ptuning.com has them for $263.95

www.performancecenter.com has them for $264.99 (just missed a sale, they had them for $251.74)


can't beat the prices on these....
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Old 07-25-2003, 10:03 AM   #7
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Borla Growl can't be beaten. I wish I had some web space. I have a nice high resolution sound clip of an RS equiped with Borla Headers, Random Tech Cat, and Stromung Dual Tip.

It sounds so sweet!

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Old 07-25-2003, 10:47 AM   #8
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Thanks guys for all the input.
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Old 07-25-2003, 01:58 PM   #9
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those arenot equal length, right?


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Old 07-25-2003, 02:05 PM   #10
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correct, they are not equal length.

www.borla.com has them as well just shy over $300.00
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Old 07-25-2003, 03:20 PM   #11
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Originally posted by MY99 2.5GT
Borla Growl can't be beaten. I wish I had some web space. I have a nice high resolution sound clip of an RS equiped with Borla Headers, Random Tech Cat, and Stromung Dual Tip.

It sounds so sweet!

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How big is the clip...I may have some webspace to host for ya.
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Old 07-26-2003, 03:29 AM   #12
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I've heard time and again that borlas are peices of *****! and they'll crack eventually. Not from my own personal experience, but i've read that a lot in the forums. Is that just with previous generations or does the gen 4 have more integrity? I was just thinking about waiting for cobb to finish their R&D, i figure it'll at least take me another year or so to save up the cash .

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Old 07-26-2003, 12:45 PM   #13
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those arenot equal length, right?


dan
Nope, they are NOT equal length, but becasue so they enhance the boxer sound futher. Equal length will negate the boxer sound.
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Old 07-26-2003, 01:04 PM   #14
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Quote:
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I've heard time and again that borlas are peices of *****! and they'll crack eventually. Not from my own personal experience, but i've read that a lot in the forums. Is that just with previous generations or does the gen 4 have more integrity? I was just thinking about waiting for cobb to finish their R&D, i figure it'll at least take me another year or so to save up the cash .
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The gen 4 has been out for over a year now and I've yet to see a post of one cracking on it's own accord, [when properly installed, not supporting the weight of a turbo as an example]. Sure it can happen, but no where near as widespread as the earlier generations. The ONLY problem with the gen 3 was that darn crossbrace which restricted heat expansion. Essentially the header "tore itself apart" trying to expand.

The gen 4 is a gen 3 less the crossbrace, nothing else changed.
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Old 07-26-2003, 06:38 PM   #15
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Borla Growl can't be beaten. I wish I had some web space. I have a nice high resolution sound clip of an RS equiped with Borla Headers, Random Tech Cat, and Stromung Dual Tip.

It sounds so sweet!

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The only difference with my setup is that I have the single tip, and it's on a Forester. Sounds LOUD!!!

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Old 07-26-2003, 06:48 PM   #16
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I've heard time and again that borlas are peices of *****! and they'll crack eventually. Not from my own personal experience, but i've read that a lot in the forums. Is that just with previous generations or does the gen 4 have more integrity? I was just thinking about waiting for cobb to finish their R&D, i figure it'll at least take me another year or so to save up the cash .

Rob
Just make sure you don't hold your breath. Cobb doesn't seem to want anything more to do with N/A engines. "We have to go where the market takes us.........."(Cobb Rep @ Rim - May 2003) "The market is headed exclusively toward the turbo motors, just look at the Turbo Forester and Turbo Baja. They are going to start turbocharging the entire line of Subaru's, and we have to develop for the market." (Same rep)

BTW, Borla's customer service SUCKS!! I won't here, but they will say anything to sell their stuff, but won't back it up with service!!
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Old 07-27-2003, 02:59 AM   #17
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well until I find another manufacturer of EJ22 headers Borla is my company!
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Old 07-27-2003, 10:58 AM   #18
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Default Borla header

I heard the new Borla header on a 2.5 GT yesterday, coupled with a resonated cat back Magnaflow system...it rocked--low grumble and the opposing cylinder thump. And Borla apparently has stood by their product through those hard (cracked) times.
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Old 07-27-2003, 06:32 PM   #19
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www.summitracing.com has them for about 275 plus $6 shipping(yes, $6)
my friend got em for his 02 RS, and they came in in 3 days, went on easy, and sound very nice. he's also running a Stromung dual tip cat-back with a 9 inch resonator, and it sounds very very nice. i cant wait to get them for my car.

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Old 07-28-2003, 08:48 AM   #20
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I've yet to hear of a problem of people getting their headers serviced (replaced) due to defects. I think I've even heard of them replacing headers that have been wrapped.
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Old 07-28-2003, 10:53 AM   #21
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Header cracking was an issue with previous generations due to a brace plate that was welded in and didn't allow the metal to flex. This caused hairline cracking in the headers. Borla did some research and found the piping didn't even need bracing in that area and unpdated their header design.

Honestly Borla are the cheapest full stainless headers on the market. They also sound the best too. They are non equel length so you may be sacrificing a little in performance but that is negligable because headers, even full exhausts don't give that much of a noticable performance gain. .

By the way my Sound Clip is 783k and is about 10 seconds long. You will get a good idea of how deep the headers make the exhaust sound. This is a characteristic solely of the headers. Nothing else in the exhaust stream can take responsibility for the drastic tone drop. The loudness and raspiness come from the Stromung Dual Tip and Random Tech Cat.

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Old 07-28-2003, 01:44 PM   #22
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Brad, if you email me the sound clip I can host it for you. PM me if you're interested.

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Old 07-28-2003, 04:03 PM   #23
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I ordered my Borla header from www.renickmotorsports.com. They have it listed for $270. I paid for normal UPS ground shipping, and ordered it on Tuesday (the 22nd) and i recieved it on Saturday afternoon (the 26th). When i got the bill with the header, they charged me $249.12, while shipping was $25. Also, I live in Ohio and they're located in California. It took 4 days and cost $274.12. Damn good deal if you ask me!

Oh, yeah....lets have a listen to that sound clip!!
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Old 07-28-2003, 05:08 PM   #24
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well until I find another manufacturer of EJ22 headers Borla is my company!
Does MRT still sell equal length headers? All along I have been saving to get their exhaust package, since a header and a cat back from them, as a package, was a pretty good price (~$700 I think). I haven't checked on it in a while though...

EDIT: whoops, I think MRT only made one for the 2.5.
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Old 07-28-2003, 06:41 PM   #25
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www.summitracing.com has them for about 275 plus $6 shipping(yes, $6)
my friend got em for his 02 RS, and they came in in 3 days, went on easy, and sound very nice. he's also running a Stromung dual tip cat-back with a 9 inch resonator, and it sounds very very nice. i cant wait to get them for my car.

Murray
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Actually $0 shipping because Summit is in Reno as is he.

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