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Old 07-28-2003, 05:54 PM   #1
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Okay, are our horns "positively" or "negatively" connected to the "horn push". I think negatively. The diagram shows power run from the battery, but then also to another "+". 2 power wires?
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Old 07-28-2003, 07:59 PM   #2
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The wire going to our stock horns is a positive wire. Just hook this wire to the Hella's and then ground the negative wire to a bolt in the same area. Also, you don't need the relay! Just hook it up like the factory horns are and you'll be on your way to LOUD ass horns!!

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Old 07-28-2003, 08:13 PM   #3
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Thanks. I did that, but they don't work. Neither do my factory ones now. I had the neg cable sisconnected when I was working on it, and my fuse is still good!
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Old 07-28-2003, 08:29 PM   #4
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On the back of the Hellas theres a silver connection, and a brass conection. Did you hook these up right?

Brass = positive
Silver = negative

Hmmmm Wierd!
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Old 07-28-2003, 08:53 PM   #5
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Hella's pdf doesn't mention a difference I'll go check though!
Oh, and the relay clicks when I lock/ unlock the doors with the remote, there's just no beep.
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Old 07-28-2003, 09:52 PM   #6
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Some how, I guess I had them both hooked up backasswards. The posts are both silver though.
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Old 07-28-2003, 10:07 PM   #7
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BTW I found these:
http://www.griotsgarage.com/pdfs/77573.pdf
so much better than what they send with the horns.
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Old 07-29-2003, 11:53 AM   #8
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My understanding is that if you don't use the relay and power directly to the battery they won't be as loud as they could be ....
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Old 07-29-2003, 02:06 PM   #9
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My understanding is that if you don't use the relay and power directly to the battery they won't be as loud as they could be ....
Yep - I can vouch for that!

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Old 07-29-2003, 03:22 PM   #10
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Maybe it is so for the old rs, but on the WRX, the stock relay has more than enough power for the hella. The stock horn relay is good for IIRC 15A.
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I used the supplied relay and retained the stock horn on the driver's side for extra effect. Essentially, your using one of your original horn's leads to switch the relay for the Hellas, which are in turn hooked directly to the battery and to another ground.
I didn't try to hook it up with the stock relay only, so I can't vouch for the difference between using or not using the supplied relay. I can however say that my setup definately gets the attention cell phone talking soccer moms who aimlessly meander their Ford Excursions all over the road, but I digress...
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Old 07-30-2003, 10:58 AM   #12
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As in the pdf I posted a link to above, Hella says don't worry about the relay in our style of wiring. Has somebody with a newer Suby tried it both ways?
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Old 07-30-2003, 08:47 PM   #13
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I used the supplied relay and retained the stock horn on the driver's side for extra effect. Essentially, your using one of your original horn's leads to switch the relay for the Hellas, which are in turn hooked directly to the battery and to another ground.
I didn't try to hook it up with the stock relay only, so I can't vouch for the difference between using or not using the supplied relay. I can however say that my setup definately gets the attention cell phone talking soccer moms who aimlessly meander their Ford Excursions all over the road, but I digress...

Thats exactly what I did, but I used the drivers side horn for the relay and left the one in the middle (so I have a triangle of horns in the front of my car). Wired it directly to the battery. Anyone who has heard my alarm go off can vouch how loud it is
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I might get energetic and try that.
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One question: I know they are loud...but are they deep sounding? Or do they sound like a normal car horn, just very loud? Maybe try to rate them 1 = stock and 10 = Goliath from Knight Rider.

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from inside the car they sound strangely puny ... but in front they are loud ... but it's not a bassey sound ... a bit thin, kind of shrill ... I would have left my regular horns in also if I was doing it again ... there was a fellow walking along the edge of the freeway ... I gave him a warning blast from maybe a good 30/40 yards ... and he JUMPED!

Don't know Goliath ...
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They project forward in a fairly narrow band I think. Best for highway use. It's a noise that will send chills up your spine.
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don't know Goliath from Knight Rider?

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/...eason2/218.htm

it's one bad mofo truck!

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from inside the car they sound strangely puny ... but in front they are loud ... but it's not a bassey sound ... a bit thin, kind of shrill ... I would have left my regular horns in also if I was doing it again ... there was a fellow walking along the edge of the freeway ... I gave him a warning blast from maybe a good 30/40 yards ... and he JUMPED!

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AMEN, badass...I remember that episode so well, I was truly scared for Kitt.

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http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/...eason2/218.htm

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Thats exactly what I did, but I used the drivers side horn for the relay and left the one in the middle (so I have a triangle of horns in the front of my car). Wired it directly to the battery. Anyone who has heard my alarm go off can vouch how loud it is
Ah, yes! A tri-tone setup! I did the same thing with my RS - kept the stock horn and used its voltage to trigger the relay which turns on my other horns. My other two horns aren't Supertones though, they're WRX horns given to me by my friend! Not as loud as the Supertones, but still very annoying out front hearing three dissanant tones.

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Old 08-02-2003, 03:05 AM   #21
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BTW I found these:
http://www.griotsgarage.com/pdfs/77573.pdf
so much better than what they send with the horns.
Why do they have them wired in series. That would just increase the load and equal less output.

They should be wired in parallel.

..or does this not affect the horns as it would a pair of speakers?
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