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Old 07-28-2003, 10:47 PM   #1
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Hi, i'm in the market for a decent awd car thats good in the snow, gets decent gas mileage, and is pretty quick. I have a 4.0l Grand cherokee that eats the gas and is so slow
I want a wrx, but i dont want to spend that much.
If i can find a 2.5rs how much will it take to get it to the speed of a wrx? I mean, it does have a larger motor to start with.
A tech at work has a 2.5rs 2 door and said when he first started he put a $2200 turbo kit on and beat wrxs. He's takin the motor out and is expecting low 11's i think.

What should I do? I wont be racing, just want somethin quick. Also is there much diff with the 2dr, 4 dr in weight. Is the 5pd much faster than the auto? Thanks
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Old 07-29-2003, 01:40 AM   #2
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5 speed is a good amount faster then the auto, the auto can take more abuse though.

Honestly, you can get 02 wrxs for 16-18K. For that price you have a car from the factory that is turbo'd

Turboing a car thru aftermarket is an expensive blackhole of debt and downtime. Now there are plenty of people that have done it and love it, I am going that path. But if I could do it all over again, I would have done a motorswap with a motor that was built for boost in the first place.

Once the boost bug bites, you will want more power. You will just add one more psi,then one more, but by the end of the month you will have a blown motor and be looking down a path a good percentage here has been down before.

A motor built for boost from the factory will be able to run deeper and harder in the long run with mods then a high compression motor not built to handle the power.

Take it this way, you wanna become real intimate with your car, machnic, tech manuals, the search function on this board and local subaru parts department? Then join our ranks as an 2.5rs turbo.

Of course this is not to say that others havn't lasted 10,000 + miles boosted with no problems on the stock block. Its just that a good amount of people who say they just wanna start out quick end up blowing there motor trying to be just a little quicker.

then again, this is all just my opinion.
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Old 07-29-2003, 07:27 AM   #3
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Hey thanks for the response. I know what you mean. I had thought about finding a cheap 2.5rs and dropping in a new motor, but for a daily driver that will never see a track is kind of pointless. We get trade-ins at work, and theres a few that i saw, but theres a 00 2.5rs 4dr auto with 44k. Its in good shape. Bought 8.5/10. I can get the car for 10,199.

But ur right, I should just find a wrx for a lil more.
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Old 07-29-2003, 07:45 AM   #4
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Take it from someone who has the factory WRX that you will get better resale and a better overall package than somthing you modify or look to the 'aftermarket' scene for add ons. The aftermarket products that are available for the WRX would have to far outweigh that for the RS if the bug did bite and there's a good chance that it will.
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Old 07-29-2003, 10:03 AM   #5
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When I got my RS it was more of a question of GC8 vs. GDB, and I am sorry but the bug eyed cars looks like they climbed right off the back of the short bus.
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Old 07-29-2003, 07:14 PM   #6
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hah sorry im new at this. But whats gc8 & gdb
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Old 07-29-2003, 07:59 PM   #7
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He's referring to the old school Impreza's (93?-01) versus the newer body style(02+). The old body style WRX's were labeled GC8(indicating the older body with an EJ20 turbo'd engine). People use that as a reference to the older Impreza's.

If you really want to go this route, and you just want performance, get an older L. That's a basic Impreza(step down from an RS) if you didn't know. Has a 1.8 or 2.2liter engine. If you're going to swap in an EJ20(the turbo engine that comes in the current WRX's), then don't pay the extra money for the 2.5liter now. You'll need to get a new hood and possibly headlights(to accomodate the intercooler). You'll lose some of the niceties on the interior, but you can track down this stuff over time, as people sell parts off on the forums(i.e. seats, trim, etc...).

That route takes a little work as well, but can be quite easy if you don't have to worry about emissions testing. If you do...well, it puts a crimp in your plan and might make it more expensive, depending on what your state/county requires.
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Old 07-30-2003, 07:45 AM   #8
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If i found one like you said and did an engine swap. What am i lookin at for the cost of the swap. Somewhere around 5-6k? Also, would I need to upgrade the tranny?

Emissions shouldnt be a problem.

Oh, and I would imagine that with that engine in a 2dr older impreza i'd be able to smoke a wrx huh.
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