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Old 07-29-2003, 08:14 PM   #1
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Default My Impressions on the STI and EVO..

I have test drove the EVO awhile back before my recent STI test drive..

I drove the EVO around a college campus parking lot, I was left with the impression that the EVO is a very different beast compared to Scoobys.

Test drove the STI recently, I have these comments:

- The seats must go.. I felt like I was sitting on a lazyboy sofa, very comfy, soft, but not a racing seat like the Recaros in the EVO or in the Type Rs.

+ The coolest thing about the STI is how the instrumentation light up sequence.

+The new 6 speed gearbox is a lot notchy and assuring than the WRX 5 speed.

-Driving the 6 speed takes some getting used to as I easily shifted to 4th upon going up to 50mph+

+The handling is much different than the WRX, on turns I felt the STI's weight bias more towards the front than the WRX. Could it be the STI's extra weight is now on the front?

+The Turbo lag on the STI is non-existent, it's not as sleepy as the WRX before boost.

-Driving the STI slow it feels heavy like a Nissan Maxima, but as you go faster the car feels lighter and more responsive

Summary:

Although I say the handling on the STI is great, but I felt the EVO's handling was more razor sharp. With a simple dial on the wheel, the EVO's wheels respond so well to driver input, I was amazed at 1st how I was doing circles around the parking lot with minimum effort.

The STI's handling is much more progressive compared to the WRX, it gets better and better as you go faster and faster. I was a bit surprised as to how similar it drives to the WRX around the block, except the turbo lag is non-existent here.

I think both cars are great, both car shines in different areas.. where the EVO shines, I was easily feeling confident quickly, the car was planted and the wheel responds instantly on throttle. Where the STI shines, the car seem to make big power at every gear. The handling was good but it requires more effort than the EVO to show a difference in handling.

Keep in mind, I never hit more than 60mph on the STI, I took it around local backstreet with a friend and I thought it was very impressive, the power on tap and how civil the car is at regular roads.
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Old 07-29-2003, 08:24 PM   #2
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I never hit more than 60mph on the STI, I took it around local backstreet with a friend and I thought it was very impressive.

Maybe if you would've gone over 60 your impressions would've been different. This car shines at high speed cornering.





...not that I approve of speeding
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Old 07-29-2003, 08:35 PM   #3
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I completely understand that my speeds were low, it was partly because it was a friend's car, sitting next to me his excitement with the car can be met with panic as I make quick turns and a sweeping U turn that had him hold his breathe a bit..




I'm sure later on after he broke in the car we can meet at the track next time and let me run a lap and get better feel.
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Old 07-29-2003, 08:51 PM   #4
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- The seats must go.. I felt like I was sitting on a lazyboy sofa, very comfy, soft, but not a racing seat like the Recaros in the EVO or in the Type Rs.
For me, the seats are great. I will drive the car 30,000 miles a year so I need a lazyboy sofa in the car. I have 3500 miles in 3 weeks... I find the seats more comfortable than my 02 WRX on long trips. Also, I prefer the interior of the STi. Since the car is my home away from home, that's very important to me.

Thanks for your report. We live in a great age when we can choose from such great cars. STi, EVO... Neon?
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Old 07-29-2003, 10:01 PM   #5
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+The new 6 speed gearbox is a lot notchy and assuring than the WRX 5 speed.
Just a request to restate this, as I don't understand and assume it's a typo. (more notchy less assuring, less notching more assuring?)
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Old 07-30-2003, 08:13 PM   #6
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Just a request to restate this, as I don't understand and assume it's a typo. (more notchy less assuring, less notching more assuring?)
A lot less notchy and more assuring than the 5MT..
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Old 07-31-2003, 12:22 AM   #7
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The combination of the large torque curve and front diff makes the car very challenging to drive precisely and cleanly at anything above 6/10s and below 10/10 IMHO.

Logically my brain tells me the car is capable of a lot, but I think you need a lot more road to take a set in a corner than a WRX (or an EVO presumably) --- so what it translates into is a much less capable machine on the road, given that there are trees, other cars etc.

In fact, it is almost frustrating, as you can drive the WRX much closer to the limit on the street, cleanly.

By my logic of course, we'd all be driving Yugos, but bear with me.

All things considered, it comes down the front diff --- really 90% of owners won't benefit from it and while it is great that Subaru put it on there giving us the best of the JDM drivetrain options it has built a car that seems to require its neck to be thoroughly rung in order for it to behave predictably.

I think the DCCD is pretty much awash as well. I'm glad we got it, most people won't use the manual mode but certainly the automatic mode is a great feature --- really we could have been given VTD (no manual mode) and been quite happy. On the other hand, it doesn't seem to have any downside, unlike the front diff.

Of course, the Suretrac diff is much better than a mechanical front diff, but then an open front diff (or even VC front LSD) might have been better choices for a road car. If I gripe so much, surely I should stick with a WRX?

Certainly the seats are also my Big Gripe. They're not too soft, they're too hard!! You don't sink in to them enough for the bolsters to be useful so it is a akin to sitting on a wooden crate on a skateboard.

I think Subaru tried to build the best seats for the US market STi and wound up with the proverbial 3 humped camel.

Det or no, the engine is pure mojo in a bottle, and is absolutely the single best thing about the car.

I think if you can buy an EVO for <= MSRP it is hugely better value than a WRX. If you can buy an STi for <= MSRP I think it is hugely better value (equipment, power) than the EVO. Even though I haven't driven it, I suspect the EVO is closer to the ultimate road car --- and the STi just has a little too much of everything.

But that's fine with me.

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You, my friend, lost all credibility with this one in my book.
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Old 07-31-2003, 01:24 AM   #9
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I agree with wallace on a few of his points.

1) The car's steering doesn't seem to be as intuitive as I'd like.
I've only had the car a week and I reallize I need to spend more time to gain confidence but there just seems to be too much involvment from the diff.

Any advice on becoming better acclimated with the handling, this is my first car with AWD, let alone with the very active front diff.

And here's a dumb question showing my technical/mechanical ignorance:
I know so much of this car is run via computer, any chance of re-programming things so the front diff isn't as involved ?


2) The seats suck, they're way too hard, feels like a slab of concrete. I'm seriously considering having a car upholstery shop soften things up in a few places and tighten things up in others(I think you'd have to be 6'5" to feel like the seats wrap around you, I'm 5'9"). I don't want to buy a new seat and lose the side airbag.

and finally...

3) The engine does make the car !!



I didn't want to come across as negative,
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Old 07-31-2003, 02:35 AM   #10
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the Recaros on the Evo are nice

but i think the STi seats fit me better cuz i am pretty "american sized"


going @ 85 zigzagging thru hondas on the way home from dealership? price less.

i even got a hot chic driving a Lancer giving me a thumbs up.. i can get used to this
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Old 07-31-2003, 04:18 AM   #11
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are the sti's seats made by recaro as well? if not then who makes them?
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Old 07-31-2003, 11:11 AM   #12
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After driving both the STI and the Evo, I agree with some of the others. The Evo's seats feel great and hold you in place during heavy G's. They fit me really great (I'm only 141 lbs). The STI's seats are softer and wider which I did care for. As far as raw power, the STI seems to come on earlier and pull hard although the 6 speed doesn't seem necessary. But for sheer handling, the Evo seems to dominate here. The car corners like it's on rails, is very predictable, and I like the quick steering ratio. The STI feels great in the handling department too, but the Evo wins hands-down (handling). BTW, I'm still trying to decide which car to purchase. I think the STI will hold the resale better than the Evo and appears to have a better fit and finish. But the Evo gives me a true rush of adrenalin.... So the jury is still out.
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Old 07-31-2003, 03:17 PM   #13
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In my view, after test driving the EVO and then the STI, the difference is felt easily.

Although I can't say which car is better, since my test drives are limited under 60mph, I have a general feeling what the car handles on the street.

I was initially very pissed when I read all the negative reviews out there in the press about the STI, now I understand what they're complaining about as non-Subaru drivers.

I would still pick the STI, I think the EVO is a fabulous driver's car, the STI has the hardware and packs the torque perfect for the streets and the show of power. The EVO's finess needs to be extracted behind the wheels and not easily felt by others.

I think Subaru designed the USDM STI to be easier for daily driving than a full JDM spec road racer.
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Let me ask you all this:

If it were your job at Subaru to improve the handling of the STI, what would you do?
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And here's a dumb question showing my technical/mechanical ignorance:
I know so much of this car is run via computer, any chance of re-programming things so the front diff isn't as involved ?
The center diff computer doesn't control the front diff.
The front diff is an AP SureTrac. I don't believe there are any adjustments.

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Old 07-31-2003, 11:00 PM   #16
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I'd just like to thank Glenn and others fr these objective reviews.It doesnt make my decision any easier but it is good to know both sides of the equation coming from an area where test drives are nil(even when you know the owner )
Thanks again
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Old 07-31-2003, 11:58 PM   #17
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+The handling is much different than the WRX, on turns I felt the STI's weight bias more towards the front than the WRX. Could it be the STI's extra weight is now on the front?

Although I can't fairly compare the STi to the Evo since I've only ridden in one and while I own the other, I can compare the STI to the WRX as we still have both.

The STi has a slightly better weight distribution (more weight was added to the rear than the front) than the WRX. That and the suspension result in a much more neutral car. After 2800 miles on the STi (55K on the modded wagon) and and having autocrossed both and spent many miles on twisty mountain roads...I find the STi much more comfortable and capable at and near the limit, as well as at 7/10s, etc. Since I trade driving the cars back and forth during the week, the difference is apparent on every curve and transition. Personally, I love the front diff. Maybe it is suited to my driving style, but I love it. Yes, it feels a little different than an open front diff under some conditions but it is a good different!

If I could change one thing on the STi, it would be to stiffen up the springs a little. The initial turn-in would feel much better if the springs didn't have that teeny-tiny bit of initial play which allows a little roll. Then they set up nicely and are predictable and stable.

Second thing would be the seats. They are really comfortable, but they don't hold me as well as the 02/03 WRX seats do (Overall, I think the Evo seats fall between the STi and 02 WRX.) Strangely, I never felt the seats have been a big problem while driving hard (even autocrossing), maybe it is more psychological since I know they aren't as snug.

I love them both, but I feel smoother in the STi and I love the way it attacks corners. My gripes are easily addressed...I'll get around to it in a bit. From my brief stint in the Evo, I do think it is a great car. The overall package of the STi fit me better...and it didn't have a dealer markup. I don't see how you can go wrong with either.

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The combination of the large torque curve and front diff makes the car very challenging to drive precisely and cleanly at anything above 6/10s and below 10/10 IMHO.

Logically my brain tells me the car is capable of a lot, but I think you need a lot more road to take a set in a corner than a WRX (or an EVO presumably) --- so what it translates into is a much less capable machine on the road, given that there are trees, other cars etc.

In fact, it is almost frustrating, as you can drive the WRX much closer to the limit on the street, cleanly.

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I disagree. The front diff makes this car handle 10000x better, and this is one of the most imprezzive cars I have ever driven on tight or sweeping turns at 10/10ths. It is soooo much better than my old RST that had Tein HA coilovers, strut tower bars and sway bar with 17" S-02's - I got 2nd place SM in my RST on Kumho race tires, and this will run very close with street tires, and it rotates better and pulls out of turns better!

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If it were your job at Subaru to improve the handling of the STI, what would you do?
I have driven this incredible car for 5000 miles now. Includes a track day at Buttonwillow and a 6000 rpm 151 mph run. For comparison, my AWD driving experience is with a MY93 STi conversion Impreza (lots of street and track time) and a short test ride in a EVO marked up $5K over MSRP. Plus a half dozen RWD sports and muscle cars BAWD (before AWD).

My improvement suggestions are as a daily driver, get a softer seat base. As a race car, get a more form fitting seat base and turn up the front struts two clicks. To bad we can't do that. Personally, I could drive faster thru the curves if the front was a little stiffer. This is an observation, not a complaint.

My comments are for a factory stock STi. I don't intend to change anything. Any performance improvement urges I have can be cooled with my 93 racer. And these statements are not to contradict the other guys reports. Cars are personal and I like the EVO too. Excepting the looks, clutch, dependability, dropping out of WRC, snotty sales guy, and something else I can't remember (age).

Overall, this is a supercar. Learning to drive it only makes it better. Once you get the shifter mapped and figure the turnin and braking characteristics, it will run with any car. I mean any car. My personal biggest problem is the accelerator. I can't keep my foot out of it. Mileage suffers. On the other hand, I am instantly gratified. The rewards of STi ownership and use.

This is my opinion only and does not reflect the position of sponsers, station owners, yada yada.

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Logically my brain tells me the car is capable of a lot, but I think you need a lot more road to take a set in a corner than a WRX (or an EVO presumably) --- so what it translates into is a much less capable machine on the road, given that there are trees, other cars etc.

In fact, it is almost frustrating, as you can drive the WRX much closer to the limit on the street, cleanly.
I couldn't agree more and ppl stared at me thinking I whine too much or dunno how to drive my car. I drove my STi on track using most of the road and the exit speed is just ridiculous. Driving on tight canyon roads on the other hand is way difficult with limited road use and oncoming traffic, etc. Weight transfer is the main issue I need to overcome or get used to, I have a lot more to learn.

I test drove a Evo before and handling is definitely better compared to STi. But I prefer the interior, daily drivability, overall quality and reliability of my STi.

My first mod will be investing more time on tracks + driving clinic and basically more practice. The next thing I'm doing is stainless brakelines, better brake fluid and probably a Cusco rear strut bar. Spec C A arm, that pushes the wheelbase further by couple mm and it alters the handling characteristic of the whole car... I'm still thinking if this is what I should do in the future.
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. Spec C A arm, that pushes the wheelbase further by couple mm and it alters the handling characteristic of the whole car... I'm still thinking if this is what I should do in the future.
As far as I know the usdm sti already has this. Its based off spec c suspension geometry.
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Cars are personal and I like the EVO too. Excepting the looks, clutch, dependability, dropping out of WRC, snotty sales guy, and something else I can't remember (age).

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I think you are being a little unfair here so I will share my opinions.


I like both cars, but the evo was much cheaper than the STI (I paid $30,318 for the EVO, and the Sti I looked at when I went to Joe Rizza Subaru was $38,500 (w/ dealer markup).

I prefer the looks of the EVO over the STI (I still think the STI looks badass).

3000 miles so far and my clutch is fine. I was at an EVO meet on Wednesday night and out of 11 cars only 2 had any clutch problems and they were VERY, VERY, VERY far from being stock.

I have had absolutely zero problems w/ my car, and the 4G63 is one of the most dependable engines out there so I don't know where your coming from there (I thought it was the STI that had detonation problems).

Mitsubishi did not drop out of the WRC, they took a year off.

In fact, they entered 2 cars in RALLY DEUTSCHLAND last weekend (One was driven by Petter Solberg's brother).










Most sales people are snotty so the same can be said about Subaru sales people.
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OK EVO boy. It seems I have touched the tender Mitsu nerve, found in a certain population group that insists on driving one car and scanning the sites meant for a different car. Why do you guys do that?

Of course I am being unfair. Thats the purpose of web sites meant for specific cars. You think your buddies on the EVO sites post unbiased and friendly remarks about Subys?

I like the STi better. I can drive the STi better. I got a better deal on the STi than your reported purchase price. I know how to modify a Subaru and how it is designed. In short, this is my car. Thats why I enjoy reading and posting here. Thats why I am unfair to EVOs. No mystery. I already said this is my opinion.

The EVO is good for you but not me. So there you have it. I bet on the track we could have a really fun time and I guarantee you I would be competative. Then we could brag together later at the restaurant about which car was better. Of course, the answer is personal and applies individually, not generally!

Enjoy your car to the max.



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I disagree. The front diff makes this car handle 10000x better, and this is one of the most imprezzive cars I have ever driven on tight or sweeping turns at 10/10ths. It is soooo much better than my old RST that had Tein HA coilovers, strut tower bars and sway bar with 17" S-02's - I got 2nd place SM in my RST on Kumho race tires, and this will run very close with street tires, and it rotates better and pulls out of turns better!

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You made my point for me, you said at 10/10ths. I never said it didn't handle great at 10/10ths, the problem is that not everyone drives it around that way.

And to be clear at anything other than 10/10ths, I think my WRX handled better, gripped better, sat flatter (STi suspension, 18" PZeros). It may just be due to tires and power and other subtle differences, but the STi seems to me to only really "work" at 10/10ths, and I mainly attribute that to the front diff. It sure does make the car better, but most of the time on the street it is an annoyance, hence my suggestion that it be an option.

And yes, the USDM STi has the JDM Spec C front geometry.

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In fact, they entered 2 cars in RALLY DEUTSCHLAND last weekend (One was driven by Petter Solberg's brother).
Did you mean Kristian SOHLBERG?
Even his last name is different.
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