Is it ok to powershift turbo cars?

gtr · 03-29-2001, 08:46 AM

I never let off the gas when i'm shifting and was wondering if it's ok to do on the Wrx.

RidinLow · 03-29-2001, 08:56 AM

It's just as "ok" on the WRX as it is on any other car, I guess.

bratmantlz · 03-29-2001, 08:58 AM

i think that would be hard on the car IMO.

David the Bold · 03-29-2001, 09:03 AM

I don't usually depress the clutch when I shift. I try to just rip from ratio to ratio. Is ok for the WRX?

Brahmzy · 03-29-2001, 10:59 AM

I don't turn the steering wheel to make a turn, I just bounce off $hit. Is that OK?

bratmantlz · 03-29-2001, 11:00 AM

ah hahaha

brahmzy

Prog · 03-29-2001, 12:08 PM

lmao

whats the use really? i mean..ive run the same person more than once, and tried doing one run powershifting, one run shifting as quick as i can , but the right way, and i havent gained squat, yet im fugging up my car..

hell even if you did gain a tenth or two, are those worth fugging up your car?
no

gtr · 03-29-2001, 02:03 PM

Yes, I do gain 1-3 tenths in the 1/4 mile by keeping the gas all the way down and shift as quickly as possible. I was just wondering if it hurts turbo cars more due to the boost and if the blowoff valve is adequate. I just want to see what the car can do. Not all cars are created equal so there is only one way to find out.

Also i have won import jam braket racing during the summer and it's due to this method of shifting. I get very consistent times like an automatic. My pics is in vol-2 issue 1 of street legal magazing

Greg555 · 03-29-2001, 02:56 PM

M · 03-29-2001, 04:34 PM

let's see pics of the M please

Narcisse91 · 03-29-2001, 06:21 PM

A "good" driver would be able to match RPMs well enough that power shifting would hurt performance. I have yet to drive a car that hasn't faultered when given too much gas when the clutch is released.

I'd be willing to bet you can shift a lot faster by letting up on the gas, pulling out of gear right before you hit the clutch, pushing the clutch down to the floor as fast as you can, and as soon as you hit the floor, release and move to the next gear. And the best part is you don't burn up a new clutch every race.

scooby5 · 03-29-2001, 07:21 PM

I love the smell of a burnt clutch in the morning!

M · 03-29-2001, 07:30 PM

I don't...

Andre Vandenberg · 03-29-2001, 07:44 PM

GTR Get ready to spend some $$$$ on transmissions.... That's ALL I can tell you!
As for the rest of you thinking that shifting ANY other way than at wide open throttle for good et's at the drag or street races..... I would LOVE to run you, coz after almost 30 years of street and "other" racing, I KNOW that is the fastest shift there is. So, If y'all are ready for a can of whop ass to be opened on ya, try and shift like baby.... I you are NOT prepared to hurt your baby's tranny, then shift like a baby. If you want $ in your account to spend on anything OTHER than tranny and drivetrain parts then shift like a baby...

titsataki · 03-29-2001, 07:56 PM

Narcisse91 you one of the few Sedona Red I have seen on the boards... what is it with it is it as rare as the yellow?

I am still waiting on my Sedona Red...
My Subi dealer is irritating me...

gtr · 03-29-2001, 08:49 PM

As for pics i'll see what i can do. Andre, maybe i got lucky in the past. I had a mustang gt and that car can take a beating. The trans did feel sloppy at around 60mi but there were so many hard miles on it. If i'm going to race i have to drive like i hate the car to get the best results, but anyways i feel that the trans can take it but i'm just uncertain about the turbos spinning to much psi's if the gas wasn't let off.

My question is that would i pop a head gasket at W.O.T. since it is turbo charged?

Andre Vandenberg · 03-29-2001, 09:03 PM

I shifted mine like that at 1.2 bar boost EXACTLY five times and the tranny went south.... WAAAAAY south. You will not blow a head gasket or hurt the motor UNLESS you miss the shift

AGAIN, with stock WRX power the tranny will probably last a litte longer than mine did... BUT it WILL go south!

Thug · 03-30-2001, 08:27 AM

You will destroy your transmission and/or clutch, but yes, that is the fastest way to drag race. ESPECIALLY with turbo cars. It keeps the boost up while shifting. If you think otherwise, ask a couple of 11 second DSM guys I know. They all keep the gas on the floor whilst shifting. Granted they use stutterboxes, but all that does is help save the tranny.

NoSubee · 03-30-2001, 02:20 PM

OK, dumb question... how exactly do you match revs on an upshift with the throttle to the floor? I match revs when downshifting now, and it makes sense to bring up the RPM's when going to a lower gear. But the motor "wants to be" at a lower RPM when in a higher gear. So how can you match when the revs spike between gears?

03-29-2001, 08:46 AM	#1
gtr Scooby Newbie Member#: 4011 Join Date: Feb 2001 Vehicle: 2009 WRX Silver	Is it ok to powershift turbo cars? I never let off the gas when i'm shifting and was wondering if it's ok to do on the Wrx.

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03-29-2001, 08:56 AM	#2
RidinLow Scooby Guru Member#: 329 Join Date: Sep 1999 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NJ Vehicle: 1999 C5	It's just as "ok" on the WRX as it is on any other car, I guess.

03-29-2001, 08:58 AM	#3
bratmantlz Scooby Specialist Member#: 3231 Join Date: Dec 2000 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: colorado springs colorado usa Vehicle: 88 626 Turbo white	i think that would be hard on the car IMO.

03-29-2001, 09:03 AM	#4
David the Bold Scooby Newbie Member#: 4791 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada	I don't usually depress the clutch when I shift. I try to just rip from ratio to ratio. Is ok for the WRX?

03-29-2001, 10:59 AM	#5
Brahmzy Scooby Specialist Member#: 3293 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: C/S, CO Vehicle: 2005 STi	I don't turn the steering wheel to make a turn, I just bounce off $hit. Is that OK?

03-29-2001, 11:00 AM	#6
bratmantlz Scooby Specialist Member#: 3231 Join Date: Dec 2000 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: colorado springs colorado usa Vehicle: 88 626 Turbo white	ah hahaha brahmzy

03-29-2001, 12:08 PM	#7
Prog Scooby Specialist Member#: 1473 Join Date: May 2000 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico Vehicle: 2005 Legacy GT 5MT Satin White Pearl	lmao whats the use really? i mean..ive run the same person more than once, and tried doing one run powershifting, one run shifting as quick as i can , but the right way, and i havent gained squat, yet im fugging up my car.. hell even if you did gain a tenth or two, are those worth fugging up your car? no

03-29-2001, 02:03 PM	#8
gtr Scooby Newbie Member#: 4011 Join Date: Feb 2001 Vehicle: 2009 WRX Silver	Yes, I do gain 1-3 tenths in the 1/4 mile by keeping the gas all the way down and shift as quickly as possible. I was just wondering if it hurts turbo cars more due to the boost and if the blowoff valve is adequate. I just want to see what the car can do. Not all cars are created equal so there is only one way to find out. Also i have won import jam braket racing during the summer and it's due to this method of shifting. I get very consistent times like an automatic. My pics is in vol-2 issue 1 of street legal magazing

03-29-2001, 02:56 PM	#9
Greg555 NASIOC Supporter Member#: 814 Join Date: Jan 2000 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Chicago, il USA Vehicle: Want engine mgmnt? I sell ViPec's ECU's	<FONT size="9">Damn he`s good</FONT s>

03-29-2001, 04:34 PM	#10
M Scooby Specialist Member#: 4470 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Dc suburbs Vehicle: 2002 Subaru WRX Blaze Yellow	let's see pics of the M please

03-29-2001, 06:21 PM	#11
Narcisse91 Scooby Specialist Member#: 3931 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Vehicle: WRX, Ninja, RX-7 Legacy, Fiat 850	A "good" driver would be able to match RPMs well enough that power shifting would hurt performance. I have yet to drive a car that hasn't faultered when given too much gas when the clutch is released. I'd be willing to bet you can shift a lot faster by letting up on the gas, pulling out of gear right before you hit the clutch, pushing the clutch down to the floor as fast as you can, and as soon as you hit the floor, release and move to the next gear. And the best part is you don't burn up a new clutch every race.

03-29-2001, 07:21 PM	#12
scooby5 Scooby Newbie Member#: 1998 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Vehicle: 1999 Impreza STi v5 Silver Mica	I love the smell of a burnt clutch in the morning!

03-29-2001, 07:30 PM	#13
M Scooby Specialist Member#: 4470 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Dc suburbs Vehicle: 2002 Subaru WRX Blaze Yellow	I don't...

03-29-2001, 07:44 PM	#14
Andre Vandenberg Scooby Specialist Member#: 501 Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Lewisville TEXAS Vehicle: 1998 2.? RS Turbo ;) RBP	GTR Get ready to spend some $$$$ on transmissions.... That's ALL I can tell you! As for the rest of you thinking that shifting ANY other way than at wide open throttle for good et's at the drag or street races..... I would LOVE to run you, coz after almost 30 years of street and "other" racing, I KNOW that is the fastest shift there is. So, If y'all are ready for a can of whop ass to be opened on ya, try and shift like baby.... I you are NOT prepared to hurt your baby's tranny, then shift like a baby. If you want $ in your account to spend on anything OTHER than tranny and drivetrain parts then shift like a baby...

03-29-2001, 07:56 PM	#15
titsataki Scooby Specialist Member#: 4402 Join Date: Feb 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: New Haven, Connecticut Vehicle: 2005 WRX STi(gone) CGM (and missing it)	Narcisse91 you one of the few Sedona Red I have seen on the boards... what is it with it is it as rare as the yellow? I am still waiting on my Sedona Red... My Subi dealer is irritating me...

03-29-2001, 08:49 PM	#16
gtr Scooby Newbie Member#: 4011 Join Date: Feb 2001 Vehicle: 2009 WRX Silver	As for pics i'll see what i can do. Andre, maybe i got lucky in the past. I had a mustang gt and that car can take a beating. The trans did feel sloppy at around 60mi but there were so many hard miles on it. If i'm going to race i have to drive like i hate the car to get the best results, but anyways i feel that the trans can take it but i'm just uncertain about the turbos spinning to much psi's if the gas wasn't let off. My question is that would i pop a head gasket at W.O.T. since it is turbo charged?

03-29-2001, 09:03 PM	#17
Andre Vandenberg Scooby Specialist Member#: 501 Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Lewisville TEXAS Vehicle: 1998 2.? RS Turbo ;) RBP	I shifted mine like that at 1.2 bar boost EXACTLY five times and the tranny went south.... WAAAAAY south. You will not blow a head gasket or hurt the motor UNLESS you miss the shift AGAIN, with stock WRX power the tranny will probably last a litte longer than mine did... BUT it WILL go south!

03-30-2001, 08:27 AM	#18
Thug Conservatively Tuned Moderator Member#: 603 Join Date: Dec 1999 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Nashua, NH Vehicle: 2005 Legacy GT Ltd. Blue	You will destroy your transmission and/or clutch, but yes, that is the fastest way to drag race. ESPECIALLY with turbo cars. It keeps the boost up while shifting. If you think otherwise, ask a couple of 11 second DSM guys I know. They all keep the gas on the floor whilst shifting. Granted they use stutterboxes, but all that does is help save the tranny.

03-30-2001, 02:20 PM	#19
NoSubee Scooby Newbie Member#: 4839 Join Date: Mar 2001	OK, dumb question... how exactly do you match revs on an upshift with the throttle to the floor? I match revs when downshifting now, and it makes sense to bring up the RPM's when going to a lower gear. But the motor "wants to be" at a lower RPM when in a higher gear. So how can you match when the revs spike between gears?