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Old 07-30-2003, 11:52 AM   #1
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Default New Perrin Performance Lowering Springs..

We have just gotten a shipment of the newly released Perrin Performance lowering springs.

These springs have been built to custom specifications designed with the stock shocks and bumpstops. The springs are progressive with a 15%-50% stiffer ride depending upon load.

The quality of the ride from these springs is remarkable!

The drop rate is 1.9" front and 1.5" rear giving the car a nice level look front to rear.

These springs will fit all 02/03 Impreza's.

MSRP is $274.99

Our introductory special is $250 shipped.

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Old 07-31-2003, 02:23 PM   #2
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Do the perrin springs lower the car more than the Prodive springs? Are they stiffer or softer than the prodrive units? (If I recall correctly the prodrive are supposed to be about 30% stiffer than stock) Springs are probably the first suspension mod I will to do my subie and the Prodrives were at the top of my list. How do they compare?

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Old 07-31-2003, 09:08 PM   #3
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MonkeyBoy - They lower the car a little more than the Prodrive springs and are progressive rated. The best way to describe them based on the facts we have are that at normal load the springs are 15% stiffer than stock. Normal load would be highway crusing and so on. When pushed hard the rate changes up to 50% stiffer than stock.

These are great springs and have to be ridden on to appreciate.

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Old 08-01-2003, 04:10 AM   #4
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Thanks for the quick info So they are a progressive springs. Good to know. hmmmmm... supple over the little bumps and stiffer in the hard corners... Sounds nice...

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Damn you for putting up new suspension bits now.

Could you post the actual spring rates vs. displacement?

I have gotten very picky about springs.


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Old 08-01-2003, 11:46 AM   #6
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MonkeyBoy - Yep dead on, they work great.

QfactorRS - I wish I could, the manufacturer of these springs does not measure springs rates in a format you and I would relate to. I will see if I can have the guys from Perrin chime in here with something above what I can explain to you.

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Old 08-01-2003, 02:19 PM   #7
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Default RE: Spring Rates

Spring rates are always a huge issue when it comes to comparison. I am going to give the most basic explanation I can. If anyone has a specific question regarding the rates please direct it to me personally (adam@perrinperformance.com)

Rates are ONLY relative from one spring to another in the same mfr.'s lineup.

There is NO worldwide std.(ANSI, TUV etc.) for how to measure and report spring rates further exaserbating the problem. (True Coilover springs are measured similarly. This is not aplicable to street springs.)

Each mfr. measures springs differently. For example XYZ mfr. measures a spring at un-loaded height 1" compressed and gets a number of 300. PDQ mfr. measures a comparable spring at an installed height and gets a number of 300. A retail customer comparing the two springs would find the RIDE of the XYZ spring to be significantly stiffer than PDQ if the installed height is another 2" lower than the measured point for rate. Therefore the mfr.'s claim of percentage change over stock gives a better insight into how the car will react with the new springs.

The IDEAL way to choose a spring is to choose one from a reputable company and to ride in a car with that spring installed. The seat of the pants and visual appeal is unfortunately the best way to determine a springs "fit" to your actual need.

Additionally, these springs were designed for use specifically for the 02/03 Impreza cars with stock or aftermarket struts.

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Thanks for askign MPJ! If I can help further please let me know!
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Old 08-01-2003, 06:01 PM   #8
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That's how customer service SHOULD be done... Kudos Adam...
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Old 08-02-2003, 01:36 AM   #9
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Just ordered a set; I will post my impressions when I get them installed
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Old 08-04-2003, 01:02 AM   #10
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Perrin - Thank you Adam, for your detail explaination.


Maicca - Looking forward to the review Thanks again.



Here are some photos that were sent by our first customer with the Perrin Springs.





Before : Front 27.5inches


[b]Before : Rear 26.5inches


After : Front 25.5inches


After : Rear 25.5inches



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Car is lower and have a much more even stance, ride is not bouncy, almost stock-ish comfort, but more responsive compared to stock. Car felt more stuck to the ground and much more aggresive feel during corning. Now I just need better tires
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Old 08-04-2003, 01:03 AM   #11
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Thanks again Dan!!

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Old 08-04-2003, 01:07 AM   #12
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The car in the pictures above is mine. So far i really like the springs. The springs are on stock struts and my only other suspension mods are a rear sway bar and front and rear strut bars. The ride feels just a little bit stiffer then stock until you get into a turn. Once in a turn the springs really stiffen up and feel great. I haven't been able to really push my car hard in a turn yet due to the fact that i am still on the RE92's and as everyone knows these tires suck. Also the drop is perfect. It gives the car a really aggressive look and gets rid of most of the fender gap.
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Old 08-04-2003, 09:49 AM   #13
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2 Questions:

1. How is the ground clearance after the install still good enough to go over a curb or not possible anymore? Will big speed bumps be an issue?

2. When you go in for alignment did you need rear camber bolts?
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Old 08-04-2003, 01:50 PM   #14
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do these springs work for the my04 wrx?
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Old 08-05-2003, 01:58 AM   #15
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dan avoN7 - Hey Dan, thanks for the feedback mate. keep us informed.

MustGoFast - They leave enough clearance to get out of all but the nuttiest of driveways. As far as alignment and camber bolts goes it would depend on what spec's you shoot for, if your after the factory spec's then yes you do need camber bolts.

capaWRX - Sorry they do not.


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Gonna add a little more feedback. Today i bumped my tire pressure from stock specs (32 front and 29 rear) to 40 in the front and 38 in the rear. This helped a ton. Now the tires dont make that much noise under somewhat fast turns. Also i am able to use the springs alot more and really push the car in a turn. Still i doubt i am even using the springs fully since the tires are really holding me back.

Also to answer about how low the car is. I don't scrape on moderate driveways at all going slow. Today while backing out of a frieds driveway my exhaust did scrape a little. I have the HKS Carbon TI and its pretty damn big. Also i can no longer jack the car directly up from the front, i have a pretty big jack though (craftsmen 3 ton jack) Not a big deal and i can just jack the side up a little then the front.
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Old 08-05-2003, 05:04 AM   #17
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hmm..
is that aaron and ryan i spy?
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Old 08-05-2003, 12:58 PM   #18
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haha yea. I installed them at Tommy's house with the help of him and Jason. Then Ryan, Dave, Aaron, and Dan came over and we went out for some food.
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Old 08-05-2003, 02:21 PM   #19
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capaWRX - Sorry they do not.


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actually, they should work if you install them with rear MY02/03 top mounts.

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I Really need a set of these... but I need to scape up some $$$. How long are you offering this price, and how many sets do you have on hand?

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Old 08-05-2003, 06:45 PM   #21
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How are these going to work on a Wagon?
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Old 08-12-2003, 01:56 AM   #22
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bump for a great vendor
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haha yea. I installed them at Tommy's house with the help of him and Jason. Then Ryan, Dave, Aaron, and Dan came over and we went out for some food.
gee thanks for calling me up Dan
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Just a quick note to say they work beautifully on the wagon and the sedan! Hope that helps!

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