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Old 08-01-2003, 04:50 AM   #1
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Default Impreza GF2, 1.8L to 5.7L SBC2 swap

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Old 08-01-2003, 05:02 AM   #2
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that is an unbelievably gutsy undertaking. i'm curious to see what kind of fabrication is going to be involved.


and if the swap alone is'nt extreme enough, hey the throttle bodies are facing the right way for a FMIC!? better load up that rear trunk w/ spare rubber as your's won't last long at all.
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Old 08-01-2003, 09:58 AM   #3
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Is that motor sitting on the mounts or is it still hanging?

do you plan on cutting out the spare tire well and putting your fuel cell under there?

Is that a GM 5.7l quadrajet?

Looks like it will be a sweet machine once all the cuts and bruises have healed.
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Old 08-01-2003, 12:10 PM   #4
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Hahaha. Hardore baby, simply hardcore!

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Old 08-03-2003, 02:40 AM   #5
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Smile Thanks for your interest!

Thanks for not alienating me guys! I wasn't sure if i'd still find a home here, since i no longer have the boxer in there. This is an LT1 out of a 95 Trans Am.

The motor is still hanging. I am contemplating the cuts i need to make to shove the engine back another 5 to 8 inches. This would require me to move the pedals and master cylinder back. I have plenty of sheet metal to make new walls with, so that's not a problem. Also i want the engine to come up about 2 inches. (it's also slightly lower on the passenger side, due to the engine mounts hitting what is left of the original xmember.) Either way, i'll be scrapping the original mounts and going for a direct bolt up engine mount.

This weekend i made the cuts for the rear truck arm (Winston Cup style) suspension. My rear end should be here in a few weeks.

Stay tuned!
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Old 08-03-2003, 10:50 AM   #6
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no definatly cool
differnt, but cool

keep shooting pictures
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Old 08-03-2003, 02:49 PM   #7
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You are my hero!

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P.S. When you are done, I would love to come down and hear this thing!
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Old 08-05-2003, 11:14 AM   #8
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New pictures are up, showing the cuts made for the Truck Arm rear suspension.

Motorsport->Project 57B->Proj001.2003.08.02 Gallery
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Old 08-05-2003, 12:08 PM   #9
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so where are you going to put the gas tank?

looks like the suspension arms go right through where it was..
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Old 08-05-2003, 12:33 PM   #10
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Yes, the gas tank will no longer be there. For one thing, this was a FWD Impreza, with a FWD gas tank. So that means there wasn't any hump for the drive shaft to begin with. Another piece that would get in the way is the 4" driveshaft and the Ford 9" snout.

I have a few options for the new fuel cell placement. It can either go in the area above the spare tire well, above the rear axle, or even more forward above the rear arms where the rear seat used to be. Each one has a different effect on handling, since i'm looking to put a large cell in. There are still more options than these, but I need to model them out first.

The most fun part about this project is it's dynamic nature.
The second most fun part is that it started out as an Impreza
New things are always coming up.
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Old 08-05-2003, 01:52 PM   #11
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Old 08-05-2003, 03:37 PM   #12
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i have a quick question; what does winston cup style suspension mean? live axle w/ panhard bar? i only ask because if so, where does the panhard bar mount? just wondering, since body on frame chassis' are so robust, and our uni-bodies are so selective in their stress worthy load points.
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i love watching this one.
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Old 08-05-2003, 08:47 PM   #13
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Wow, that's dam cool.
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Old 08-18-2003, 03:38 AM   #14
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tbd: The winston cup suspension is a trailing are variant, with very long arms. This gets rid of the binding that is possible with other types of suspension, and the length of the arms provides lots of stability at high speeds (very low bump steer).

I'm also using a 40" panhard bar, the longer the better. The panhard bar mounts are just one of the many pieces to be fabricated.

I've gathered a few techniques by looking at the JGTC Impreza interior, such as a tube frame around the tranny tunnel area. We also have a supply of 2x2 and 2x4 mild steel box tubing, and the standard roll cage 1-5/8 tubing. The plan now is to tie load bearing points into the roll cage design. The sheet metal is pretty thin, but it is really tough. i.e. you can have a big "hanging chad" piece and be twisting it back and forth for a long time before it fatigues enough to break.

The decision to move the engine farther back has been made. I made a hugemungous hole in the firewall, and now everything will move back about 6 to 8 inches.

I'm pretty much decided on the Wilwood dual MC brake floor mount pedal kit too. I could have made the pedal assembly, but the balance bar makes it more time effective to get the Wilwood part. I'm also planning on the dual remote MC kit too, so i don't need 2 residual pressure valves.

New Pictures from 8/6, 8/8, 8/9 and 8/16 will be up on Monday or Tuesday. These include pictures of the Currie Track 9 housing, axles and Ford Explorer disc brakes.
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Old 08-19-2003, 09:06 PM   #15
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Old 09-19-2003, 10:28 PM   #16
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Bump for a update on this crazy conversion!

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Old 09-19-2003, 10:42 PM   #17
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CRAZY@!!!! Cant wait to see it running....
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Old 09-20-2003, 12:06 AM   #18
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Interesting project.

Hmmmm. I'd be interested to see the change in weight shifts of the car. I predict a lot of understeer will show itself. (Of course, that could always be countered by tuning)
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Old 09-20-2003, 12:51 AM   #19
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Thanks for the interest!
I haven't updated this thread or the web site in a while, but here's how things have gone so far:

The biggest change is that the engine has been moved about 7 inches into the car, which gives me plenty of options for the future (TT )

I did an idiotic thing when attempting to remove the window in a hurry, so that will need to be replaced in the end. Stupid me.

So hopefully the car will exhibit less understeer than it did as a FWD, now that the engine and tranny CoM has been moved closer to the center of the car.

Besides that, I've been taking some classes and dodging thunderstorms and hurricanes. Did I mention I have no garage?
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Old 11-13-2003, 03:14 AM   #20
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TTT, for the Ford 5.0 Conversion readers =)
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Old 01-31-2004, 01:37 AM   #21
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Awww, pics are gone on the site

TTT!!
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Old 02-01-2004, 01:33 AM   #22
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Not sure what the problem was, but everything seems to be ok. All pictures are there.

I haven't updated the site in a while, as I have been concentrating on school. Also, did I mention I don't have a garage? =) More to come when the weather warms up!

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Old 02-01-2004, 01:48 PM   #23
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Old 02-02-2004, 10:01 AM   #24
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Not sure what the problem was, but everything seems to be ok. All pictures are there.

I haven't updated the site in a while, as I have been concentrating on school. Also, did I mention I don't have a garage? =) More to come when the weather warms up!

I feel your pain! I rented bay space in an industrial park for a while with a friend of mine, turned out to be like $150/mo each...not too bad.

The pictures are not there, from what I can tell. Whenever I click on any of the links in the Project 57b galleries on phy6.net, I get this (or something similar, obviously for the different file names):
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The requested URL /~djue/images\Proj001.2003.06.29.002.jpg was not found on this server.

Apache/1.3.26 Server at www.umiacs.umd.edu Port 80
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Old 02-03-2004, 01:43 AM   #25
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Hmmm... Shows up for me 1:40AM EST 2004.02.03
I will look into it more this week. I currently don't work for the place that is hosting the site, but they have a long standing policy of letting former staffers keep their privileges....at least the good ones! hehehe So I'll have to find out if something funny is going on.

Thanks for the continued intrest! Hopefully I'll have something cool to post soon.

Later,

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