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Old 08-03-2003, 05:07 PM   #1
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What brand/size speakers do you have in your rear doors and also what modifications were necessary?
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Old 08-03-2003, 06:32 PM   #2
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5-1/4" co-axial Cerwin-vegas (w/ angled tweets)

..the doors hate them, i love em till #24 on stock hu.
i put spacers on em, but were a temp fix type of thing. I'm gonna have to go back and prolly make an mdf cut out like i did for my front speakers (6 -1/4"components).
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Old 08-03-2003, 06:52 PM   #3
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These 4" Pioneers. They were inexpensive (I got these, the 6.5" version for the fronts, a JVC MP3 headunit, and all the wiring for 310 shipped). They sound good to me but since they're smaller and mounted low, the highs tend to get muffled a bit. I'm not a very demanding car audio person anymore so YMMV. Installing them was pretty easy actually. I ripped out the factory rear speakers and fashioned adapters out of the plastic ring that surrounded them. Very easy actually(well easier than the fronts atleast )
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Old 08-03-2003, 06:56 PM   #4
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Diamond Audio M351i 5.25" coax. Had to enlarge the opening in the door for a proper fit.
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Old 08-04-2003, 12:43 AM   #5
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4 inch infinity kappa
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Old 08-04-2003, 08:08 AM   #6
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4" infinity reference coaxials, rear mounted on a 0.25" MDF mounting ring, with that assembly normally mounted into the rear door. The tweeter on this speaker sticks out too far and likes to hit the door, otherwise.

No cutting of door, etc.

I'd recommend speakers with flush tweeters, and actually would have preferred to go with 5 1/4" speakers back there, knowing what I know now. The ultimate setup back there would be 5 1/4" components, since there's already a nice little spot on the inside of the door panel that would be a perfect cutting template for adding a tweeter.
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Old 08-04-2003, 08:44 AM   #7
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...anyone hear of someone installing on back deck?
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Old 08-04-2003, 09:43 AM   #8
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it's an option...you can search for it if you like.

i'm not sure why that makes you furious?
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Old 08-04-2003, 12:25 PM   #9
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lol, oh, yeah the face? That my frustration on how painful its gonna be to install some components up there. It looks like it would have been there if not for the middle seat belt (the holes are there, but modified into the hole with sheet metal for the belt housing.)

edit:: thanks JPIQ, thats very helpful, also guys sorry to thread jack, but having the stereo ear level is optimal for the higher frequencys for soundstaging

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Old 08-04-2003, 04:05 PM   #10
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I use to have 5.25'' Discuss MB's in the rear doors.

The Installation was very easy, however the sound was not clear, compared to the front 6.5" speakers.

Now, I replaced them with 6.5'' speakers in the rear panel.
The sound is clear and louder than the front cause they are mounted higher. The installation was NOT EASY.

Was it worth it?
Just try to sit in any sedan with the speakers mounted in the
rear panel.

Also, try to do a search on REAR PANEL or REAR DECK.
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Old 08-14-2003, 02:28 PM   #11
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i mounted diamond audio components in the rear: mid-bass drivers are in the doors and the tweets are mounted on the rear deck.

i didn't like it. it completely threw off the soundstage -- since the sound was louder and brighter in the back versus the front, it felt like the music came from the back. i've since disabled the rear tweeters and am now running only the mid-bass drivers. a set of coaxials will replace the diamond audio setup in the rear.

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Old 08-14-2003, 08:02 PM   #12
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I'm running MB Quart discuss 113s (5.25") in the rear doors. The offer nice fill adn don't over power my front stage, but then again not much will. I have 6.5,4, tweet on each side up front.

4" works well with factory adapter. Most 5.25" can fit using an adapter and not having to cut metal.

6.5" need cutting galore, but can be worth it. I use my car as a rolling template so I can't afford to alter the sheet metal.
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Old 08-15-2003, 07:25 PM   #13
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none..prefer true stereo
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Old 08-15-2003, 11:21 PM   #14
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none..prefer true stereo
good boy SS...

unless you carry passengers ALL THE TIME in the rear seats, you are just ruining your sound stage.

when was the last time you went to a concert and then turned around to face the rear when the band started playing?

oh, dont even say, "rear fill"...

rear fill, rear schmilll....

set up a good 2 channel setup up front and you are set.

when multichannel HARDWARE finally makes it for a mobile setup, then we'll talk again.

but right now, 2 channel is king...
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Old 08-16-2003, 03:44 PM   #15
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I'm running MB Quart discuss 113s (5.25") in the rear doors . . . . I use my car as a rolling template so I can't afford to alter the sheet metal.
Do the MBQ D113's go into the rear doors without ANY alterations to the door or door panels? I'm looking for a decent set of rear fill speakers that do not require cutting the doors or sanding down the door panels.

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Old 08-16-2003, 09:31 PM   #16
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Nothing at the moment. Initially I ran a pair of Infinity Kappa 6 1/2's in the rear doors . After a month I decided that they really didn't add much to the DEI 3065's comps up front so I removed them . Haven't missed them a moment's since. As mentioned above , unless you have people in the back on a constant basis there's no good reason to bother.
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Old 08-16-2003, 11:00 PM   #17
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Are you just seeing what fits in with no modification, or little modification? I've installed all of these, just a simple 1/2" mdf spacer. Could probably use 1/4" but I never have anything that thin laying around. DEI Directed 3055 5 1/4", Focal Polykevlar 136k 5 1/8", CDT HD 4".
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Old 08-17-2003, 09:57 PM   #18
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I have 5 1/4 JL Audio XR-525CXI coaxials w/ angled tweeters in my rear doors. They fit with no problem.

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Old 08-17-2003, 10:55 PM   #19
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good boy SS...

unless you carry passengers ALL THE TIME in the rear seats, you are just ruining your sound stage.

when was the last time you went to a concert and then turned around to face the rear when the band started playing?

oh, dont even say, "rear fill"...

rear fill, rear schmilll....

set up a good 2 channel setup up front and you are set.

when multichannel HARDWARE finally makes it for a mobile setup, then we'll talk again.

but right now, 2 channel is king...
Right on man. Yeah having an audiophile for a roommate has taught me a lot of things about proper staging and stereo setup.

Currently I am running Boston Z6's in the front doors and a single Boston Pro 12 in the rear.
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Old 08-18-2003, 08:18 AM   #20
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Right on man. Yeah having an audiophile for a roommate has taught me a lot of things about proper staging and stereo setup.

Currently I am running Boston Z6's in the front doors and a single Boston Pro 12 in the rear.
you guys know you can install speakers back there and just fade them off when you don't have passengers....right?

ps...if you're in a car, your sound stage is already ruined...sorry to break it to you.

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when was the last time you went to a concert and then turned around to face the rear when the band started playing?
I love when people try to use this fallacy as justification for no rear fill. when was the last time you went to a concert and didn't have walls beside or behind you that the sound reflected off of, creating a rear fill situation?
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Old 08-18-2003, 08:59 AM   #21
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hehehe, i'm spoiled, i like the sound of being in the sound (i'm center). I guess it breaks down to people whom want a "concert" i'm in the audience feeling, or being part of the music and having it all around you (not 5.1, but would be nice).
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when was the last time you went to a concert and didn't have walls beside or behind you that the sound reflected off of, creating a rear fill situation?
Um you DO have walls beside you and behind you, its called the car..why do I need rear fill when the sound is reflecting off of these walls?

But to answer your question seriously the last time was last week at the Motorhead/Dio/Iron Maiden show at Smirnoff Music Centre in Dallas. It is a semi-outdoor environment. I was about 15 feet from the stage. The closest wall behind me was about 400 yards behind me and the closest walls to my left and right were about 50 yards away. I was really close to the speakers so couldnt hear any "reflecting" off of said walls. Wow, really close to the speakers......kind of like in a car. Hmmmmm...
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...did Maiden do the tale of the mairner?
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they played a bunch of hits..started off with number of the beast with a huge "666" lit up in the background..I dont remember if they played Tale of the Mariner or not..I was a little tipsy
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Um you DO have walls beside you and behind you, its called the car..why do I need rear fill when the sound is reflecting off of these walls?

But to answer your question seriously the last time was last week at the Motorhead/Dio/Iron Maiden show at Smirnoff Music Centre in Dallas. It is a semi-outdoor environment. I was about 15 feet from the stage. The closest wall behind me was about 400 yards behind me and the closest walls to my left and right were about 50 yards away. I was really close to the speakers so couldnt hear any "reflecting" off of said walls. Wow, really close to the speakers......kind of like in a car. Hmmmmm...

That's pretty much the worst seat in the house, musically, unfortunately. it's fun to be close to the stage, though. And, at those volumes, even walls that seem far away have a big impact. Even outdoor football stadiums deal with reflections, etc.

Keep arguing how great of a soundstage a car is, though
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