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Old 04-16-2001, 06:02 PM   #1
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Thumbs up New gears from BPM (new info straight from the source)

I just spoke to Greg from BPM about gearsets for the WRX and thought I would post in here since a lot of you (like me) are planning on upping the boost on your cars and will need stronger gears. He said that they had "issues" with their old gears but didn't want to get into specifics. So they've released their old gear designer, meaning he is free to sell directly now, and they are working on a new design for their gears. He said that they are going to make 1st and 2nd smaller, but Reverse bigger (since some people have had trouble getting into reverse). He said they won't be able to handle quite as much power and I asked how much. He said for the street gears (meaning you retain your all of your synchro gears) they would be able to handle 400HP. I didn't ask about the other setups, but if you're planning more than 400HP, then you can just contact them yourself! Also, I know there has been a lot of discussion about doing an Sti tranny swap (I was thinking about this myself) so I asked him how much power they could handle, and he said 350HP max(!) but would say 300HP just to be safe. He said their new gears should be ready in about 3 months and I just thought I'd post up here for all you guys who are seeing new turbos in your future (like me ) so you know what's coming up. Feel free to post questions and I'll see if I can answer them for you, if nothing else, I'll just ask Greg again.
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Old 04-16-2001, 06:08 PM   #2
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the BIG question:
how much?
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Old 04-16-2001, 06:19 PM   #3
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Gimpy, your a dork man. BPM stop selling "their" old gears because they "werent good enough". BPM realeased "their" gear designer. BPM decided to make "1/2 gears smaller to handle more power". BPM made "Reverse bigger to make getting to reverse easier". BPM feeding Gimp a load.

Gimp, I am laughing at you right now bro. Sorry. Do a search dude. Hey Gimp, wanna buy a bridge? LOL.

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Old 04-16-2001, 06:24 PM   #4
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Old 04-16-2001, 06:27 PM   #5
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Amen Kartboy,

Gimpy howabout that bridge. Only slightly used. Comes with a Manhattan view.

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Old 04-17-2001, 11:49 AM   #6
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Hey Ken, f*ck off. Why don't you go back to school and learn how to read. I didn't say they made 1st and 2nd smaller to handle more power, try reading my post again, I said:

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He said that they are going to make 1st and 2nd smaller, but Reverse bigger (since some people have had trouble getting into reverse). He said they won't be able to handle quite as much power...
Where did you get all of your quotes man? I never said their old gears "weren't good enough" I said:

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He said that they had "issues" with their old gears but didn't want to get into specifics.
And Ken, as far as your comment about the reverse gear, tell me, are you a gear designer? Do you know what effects it would have? Do you know anything about gears other than what somebody tells you? And as far as doing a search, how am I supposed to do a search on something brand new, something that isn't even for sale yet, something that no one else has posted on? If there is such a topic on BPM gears, post up the link. That link that kartboy posted is by Chalak, BPM's old gear designer, it's not relevant to what BPM is designing now. Or better yet, why don't you try talking to Greg from BPM yourself, better to go straight to the source like I did, than listening to a bunch of 3rd and 4th hand information and showing everyone how much of a fool you are Ken. Maybe others will just put up with your *****, but I won't, so don't try to make me look bad, you're the one that everybody laughs at, they just don't tell you because they're afraid you might cry. <IMG SRC="http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/cwm/cwm/crying.gif" border=0>

EDIT: WillReckXhop, the gears will cost $3000.

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Old 04-17-2001, 02:15 PM   #7
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I'm glad to hear there will be a suitable aftermarket heavy duty synchro gearset for the WRX, just in case. Forget the CE lights, the tranny concerns me more at this point, especially since I do plan to up the power in the future! Not that I'm going to abuse it or anything, but there are plenty of manufacturers (foreign and domestic) that can make trannies that can hold some "beans". I wonder why Subaru has had issues with this for such a long time?

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Old 04-17-2001, 02:22 PM   #8
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'Cause they haven't redesigned the damn thing in decades
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Old 04-17-2001, 02:23 PM   #9
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For 2,200 you can get a 1/2 dog gearset from B-spec or Sam Chalak himself..
if you managed to read the thread Kartboy posted you would realize the DESIGNERS of bpm gearsets (and manufacturers) are now selling the gears themselves... WHY pay more to get a weaker set (synchros don't allow space for larger 1st and 2nd) from a middleman?
Sorry this is IMHO...
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Old 04-17-2001, 02:38 PM   #10
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“He said that they had "issues" with their old gears but didn't want to get into specifics”

Hrmm…

“He said that they are going to make 1st and 2nd smaller, but reverse bigger (since some people have had trouble getting into reverse).”

Sounds good.

“and they are working on a new design for their gears”
“they would be able to handle 400HP.”

And they know it will be able to handle 400hp with smaller gears because they can tell the future?

“He said their new gears should be ready in about 3 months”

So how long have they been R&Ding these gears? Seems like BS to me. Not long ago they were bragging about working with Sam and offering his gears. Now all of a sudden they have been working on a new set of gears for how ever long that will do these amazing things that Sam has never claimed he could do. So if they could do all this why did they ever work with him? We can assume he wouldn’t have been the one to design them. Why would he give the design to them if he wanted out of their partnership? I’m not even saying that what they claim can’t be done, but you don’t just pull a gears out of your ass that can do all that. That’s no easy task ya know. If it were, it would have been done long ago. I suggest you do a search, you may learn something after you read posts from them regarding gears, Sam Rigoli, and Sam Chalack(spelling?).

Cause trouble, yeah some times, but never for no reason. I only seek to point out to you how gullible you are being. Do you want to buy a bridge? And don't be so nasty, it's beneath you.

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Old 04-17-2001, 05:02 PM   #11
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Hey Ken, that little "Search" function on this board doesn't contain all the answers to life's mystical problems you know. Every once in a while there actually is a topic on this board that presents new information, like this one. I've just told you a whole bunch of new information here and all you can post is your usual "do a search." Ken, maybe if you spent all that time learning new things and realizing that you don't have the answers to everything then you would be such an ass, instead you waste it on useless topics that only make you look like an idiot. As for your comment about the strength of the gears and how they know they'll be able to handle that much power, have you ever heard of a thing called "physics" and "calculus"? It's two things that their "engineers" both know very well, it usually requires what they call a "degree" something that you obviously don't have. Now, I know I've thrown a lot of big words at you here, so to help you out, here's a link to a place where you can look them all up: http://www.dictionary.com . And I don't know how long these new gears have been in R&D, why don't you talk to Greg yourself, he's on ICQ, his number is: 85002510.

EDIT: kaos200: Don't take this the wrong way, I just think you may be confused about a couple of things and I just wanted to make sure you had it straight before you made your decision. BPM is no longer a middle-man for Chalek's gears, they released him from their contract and they are now going to be selling gears of their own design. As for them being weaker than Chalek's half-dog gears, you're right, but unless you're planning on having more than 400HP then you won't need those stronger gears and you would be giving up two of your synchro gears for them. Just something to think about, I'm not saying everyone has to agree with me, I just want everyone to have the facts so they can decide what's best for themselves. Cheers, and Ken I'm not going to be responding to any more of your pointless posts, it's a waste of my time.

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Old 04-17-2001, 05:14 PM   #12
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being the peace loving person i am all i have to say is:
a little bit of advice (since u like giving so much of it ken, surely you are willing to receive some): such a hostile approach sure wont get you friends. and no one ever said you must have friends, but your neck sure starts to hurt when you are always watching your back

just my 2 cents.

and i do agree with your idea ken, i sure am not gonna buy a gear with a bigger reverse and a smaller first and second. what good is that? should i start a race pointing backwards?
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Old 04-17-2001, 05:19 PM   #13
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gimpster - i was gonna buy bpm's half dog for $3600, then sam comes along and sells the exact same gear for $2000. the sad part is i would not be surprised if bpm charges more for these "newly designed" gears.

bpm dont take this the wrong way, but that is some price markup. and that is why i am hesistant buying bpm's expensive toys.
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Old 04-17-2001, 06:20 PM   #14
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Nick I am always willing to take advice and learn. It seems my joking half taunting nature is rubing some the wrong way. I think I will conform as it seems to be the only way to play here. Why be me, when I can be like everyone else.

Man, sorry I tried to point out anything to you. You see fit to "TRY" and insult me. Please spare me. I'll not be dragged into a bull Ish for a second day in a row. I hope you enjoy your gears man. Good luck.

Sorry to those who cry after reading my posts. Sorry if I have caused you pain. And I'll do my best not to cause any more trouble here.

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Old 04-17-2001, 06:22 PM   #15
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One more thing, I like BPMs stuff. Nothing against them, I have some of their toys.

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Old 04-17-2001, 06:54 PM   #16
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No speed is that you running your smack again please pay this joker no mind. No speed go buy a paper and look for a job. Oh yeah I forgot you're a "MANWHORE" and a "HOUSEHUSBAND" please need I say more. LOOOOOOOOOOOOSER.
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Old 04-17-2001, 07:13 PM   #17
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Bad credit go find something to do you little troll. ******* little ugly bastard.
Always trying to add your two cents. You are the biggest child on the board. Can't even think of any new material.

Try again, next time come harder."I got and M3" Like I was supposed to say, oh sorry man. Didn't know you had an M3. My bad. **** off you ex poster child for pro choice. I'm tired of you little cry baby bastards.

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Old 04-17-2001, 08:40 PM   #18
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Have a Nice Day?

in before the lock
LOL that was hilarious!!!
i wish times like these moderators would delete the posts and keep the thread. the thread was informative. just get rid of the posts that were off topic (which would me some of mine huh?)
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Old 04-17-2001, 09:26 PM   #19
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ken...shut the f__K up dude.
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Old 04-17-2001, 09:41 PM   #20
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Ouch huwey newbie likes to get done in the booty. Hehehe.
Your sure got me rookie. Anything else to add to this highly productive thread?

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Old 04-17-2001, 11:05 PM   #21
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Now that were all bashing BPM....Where the hell is my HPC turboback exhaust man?? (-:/
I just hope BPM can figure stuff out before sending shipments out the door. I know we all want this aftermarket stuff fast and all, but please test (Alpha&Beta) products that go out...

If this exhaust works out, I will enlist some more of BPMs products.

(So called import speed shop guys around here are like ..BPM??...never heard of that one before)...yeah I bet you haven't freakin high school saki shop.....

New Word (Saki)...much more sopfisticated than "Rice"
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Old 04-17-2001, 11:21 PM   #22
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Come on now people! I cannot deal with this that often!
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Old 04-18-2001, 12:13 AM   #23
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whoa, is it just me, or does this Ken dude like starting problems.
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