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Old 08-10-2003, 05:58 AM   #1
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Question Can I make a '93 Impreza L to the new WRX spec?

There is a '93 Impreza Wagon L at my shop and I can get it very cheap, for about $1100, but it is AT tho......so I am thinking to put a 02 WRX engine and drivetrain in it.

Here comes my questions: is it possibile to put a 02 WRX engine and 5-speed in it? Do I have to swap the suspension or anything else at the same time? and how much money should I looking to spend in this project?

Subaru is so new for me so please give some advices. I will appreciate any info!


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Old 08-10-2003, 03:43 PM   #2
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is this the aegean blue/green colored one in the classifieds?
maybe i've seen it.

know before hand that most wrx drive train swaps fit mechanically but require some challenging electrical rewiring work. if you're comfortable w/ this then go for it.

points of interest:

93 models are noted to have front axles that are not transferrable to the other years' transmissions. of course this is true between some other years also.

quote from chris @ i-speed, "the wiring engineers on the 93 must have been on crack!" dunno what that means, but i've never forgotten his commentary.

its not impossible though as mike shields seems to have converted his 93 sedan. see the spd website. "meet the spd impreza."

you'll need to check a few other things on that car. is it awd? if not you may want to swap out the rear suspension. all wheel disc? ditto. note that wrx spec for most drivers involves more than just the drive train. brakes and suspension upgrade are nice as well.

as for $ cost don't expect to incurr anything less than double the cost of all drivetrain pieces. try a search; it seems everyone encounters missing, damaged, or overlooked parts and service that are required at some point. maybe the added cost comes from buying those oddball parts directly from the dealer.

from what i hear, the wiring is a PITA, unless perhaps you study the approach posted by VerIII north of the border. even then it still is a challenge.

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Old 08-11-2003, 12:00 PM   #3
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93 models are noted to have front axles that are not transferrable to the other years' transmissions. of course this is true between some other years also.
wrong
FWD 93 imprezas have axels that don't transfer to any thing else (funky spine count)
AWD axels are the same as every other subaru 94-2000

physcal swap of motor is quite straight forward the wireing is a pain in the ass

i woudl put aside 4-7k for the motor/parts you will need for the swap if you do the labor... it depends on how much you want to change/improve
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Old 08-11-2003, 02:28 PM   #4
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thanks for the correction; i should have been clearer.

off topic question: is the 93 wiring different from other years?

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Old 08-11-2003, 02:55 PM   #5
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off topic question: is the 93 wiring different from other years?
Almost every year has different wiring. The only exception to this would be the MY00 and MY01 RS. Beyond that, it is anybody's guess as to what might be the same.

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Old 08-11-2003, 03:01 PM   #6
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Experience has shown us that some something must have gone koo koo at the wiring plant in 1993.
It seems like the factory was in the middle of making cars/looms and plain ran out of wires so they started using whatever colors they could find. example: we all know ground wires to be black and sometimes even brown...but have you even seen light blue ground wires? Oh that's not enough for you. What about power wires. They are red most of the time...right? What about seeing light blue power wires? Now get this...those 2 examples are from the same car!

I don't know if this was just a strange car. But we do know it was a PITA. So, in short we stay away from the 93's.

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Old 08-11-2003, 04:20 PM   #7
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i tried to do the same i was quoted almost $10,000 for of that work in IL, if you can get the work done for under $5,000 do it otherwise don't bother. another question why would you want to? all these cars are different, as different as you or i are. and you want to destroy it, to make a carbon copy of another vehicle? it proably would be cheaper in the long run if bought the subie you want. i dunno those are just my opinion.
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Old 08-16-2003, 01:38 AM   #8
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well i heard that if you sent out,for instance, your 95 L wiring harness plus your (insert motor here) wiring harness to rallispec.they can do it for a grand or so.plus you will need the wrx cross members and so on...but any prominent auto mecahic should be able to get the motor in with no problems,its the wiring that is a pain.if im wrong please do correct me but from all around this forum is what everyone is tellin me...well thats my two cent
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