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Old 08-11-2003, 01:52 PM   #1
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Default I wanna buy a road bike, need advice

Okay bike geeks, I finally have reached the point in my life where I think I want to buy a road bike.

I've been mt. bike riding and racing for 8 years on and off, and I've always thought of getting a road bike, but now I think the time has come.

I've got about $1000 to spend and I don't have any clue what to get. I was looking over at roadbikereview and saw a few cool ones, but how do I chose?

Also, I want to get a bike that is sized perfectly for me, andy advice on how to do that? I'm 6'1 and 185lbs.

thanks.

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Old 08-11-2003, 01:57 PM   #2
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I'm not going to knock your hobbies or activities or anything but how can you pay $1000 for a metal frame, two wheels, a seat, and pedals?

and what do they do to these bikes that costs so much money? How much could it possibly cost to develop these things to justify a $1000 price tag?
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Old 08-11-2003, 01:57 PM   #3
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depending on your inseam you will prolly be in a 60cm frame. Give or take a cm or so.

Pick out a color make sure it fits and ride.
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Old 08-11-2003, 01:58 PM   #4
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1k on a worthy bike is inexpensive. You can still get alot of bike for that money tho.
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Old 08-11-2003, 01:59 PM   #5
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I'm not going to knock your hobbies or activities or anything but how can you pay $1000 for a metal frame, two wheels, a seat, and pedals?

and what do they do to these bikes that costs so much money? How much could it possibly cost to develop these things to justify a $1000 price tag?
the materials that go into the bikes are often expensive.... such as high grade steel, aluminum, and some frames are even completely made of titanium or carbon fiber. that being said, there isn't a huge deman for the products, so the price is going to be high.

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Old 08-11-2003, 02:12 PM   #6
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I'm not going to knock your hobbies or activities or anything but how can you pay $1000 for a metal frame, two wheels, a seat, and pedals?
actually, $1000 is on the inexpensive end of the spectrum. I agree, it seems crazy, but I've grown up on bikes and at some point you appreciate having a bike that is made well, performs well, and will last.

as soon as you get specialized in any sport, the price of the good gear is usually mind boggling to normal people.

My mountain bike cost about three grand, but I've raced countless races and thousands of miles on it, so it's worth it.

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Old 08-11-2003, 02:15 PM   #7
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this is the one I like so far because it seems versatile:

http://www.roadbikereview.com/PRD_101149_4225crx.aspx
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Old 08-11-2003, 02:30 PM   #8
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this is the one I like so far because it seems versatile:

http://www.roadbikereview.com/PRD_101149_4225crx.aspx
Are you wanting a cyclecross bike or a road bike?

What type of riding are you thinking of doing?(long, short, group rides, Race) How tall are you and what is your inseem?

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Old 08-11-2003, 02:30 PM   #9
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Okay bike geeks, I finally have reached the point in my life where I think I want to buy a road bike.

I've been mt. bike riding and racing for 8 years on and off, and I've always thought of getting a road bike, but now I think the time has come.

I've got about $1000 to spend and I don't have any clue what to get. I was looking over at roadbikereview and saw a few cool ones, but how do I chose?

Also, I want to get a bike that is sized perfectly for me, andy advice on how to do that? I'm 6'1 and 185lbs.

thanks.

-s
Go for it! I started riding road about three years ago and it made me a MUCH better mtb rider.

For your size, I'd guess a 57cm - 60cm would be right, depending on if you prefer a more compact frame or would rather stretch out a bit. Have a shop fit the bike for you.

You'll get a decent bike for $1,000. The link you showed appears to be a cyclecross set-up? Is this what you want? If so, great, but it's not a "road bike" in the truest sense. I'd check out Supergo's "Scatante" house-label for a decent bike at a good price. You can probably score a full-Ultegra set up on a carbon/amuminum frame w/in your price range.

When you get it...we can set up an SCIC ride!
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Old 08-11-2003, 02:39 PM   #10
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Well, I started by wanting a road bike, but was reading the reveiws of this bike and everyone was saying "if I could only have one bike I'd get this one" and "I've beat much more expensive road bikes". And they were all talking about how versatile it is.

And the areas I want to start out riding are the cool roads that crisscross around Griffith Park and the hollywood hills. They are mostly closed to vehicle traffic, so it would be less of a worry for me. I'm worried about getting hit on a road bike.

The roads seem to be in decent condition, but have rough sections and pebbles or gravel for short stretches on a few of them, so I though maybe a versatile bike would be good.

It seems I could use this bike on pure road rides too, without too much grief, except maybe purists would turn up their noses at me. But I couldn't care less about that.

I'd do a SCIC road ride, that would be very fun! Someone could show me road bike etiquette.
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Old 08-11-2003, 02:42 PM   #11
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I'm not going to knock your hobbies or activities or anything but how can you pay $1000 for a metal frame, two wheels, a seat, and pedals?

and what do they do to these bikes that costs so much money? How much could it possibly cost to develop these things to justify a $1000 price tag?
That's easy. Generally speaking, you get what you pay for. More $$ means
lighter, stronger, smoother, more durable.

My favorites bikes for value have got be Giants. Being the biggest manufacturer
in the world means they got buying power and generally offer comparably
equipped bikes for $1-200 less than the competition. They also do trickle
down technology very well - i.e. my TCR2 ~$1200 has the exact same frame
and near-same fork that the ONCE pro team rode that year!

All that being said, I would seriously look at all bikes in your price point
and find one that suits you. Fit is the key. Personally, if I was in the market
again, I would be buying Cervelo.

Have fun.....Stu
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Old 08-11-2003, 02:45 PM   #12
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Are you wanting a cyclecross bike or a road bike?

What type of riding are you thinking of doing?(long, short, group rides, Race) How tall are you and what is your inseem?

MV
oh, I don't think I'd be racing on it ever. But then again I've always wanted to do a triathalon. but really the bike would just be to mix things up and be able to go riding without having to drive to a trailhead.

I like all sorts of rides (i.e. long, short, group rides).

I don't want a bike that is only good at long rides, or short rides, etc. I just want a versatile, flexible bike that costs around 1k.

When it comes to road bikes, I really have no idea what I'm talking about.
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Well, I started by wanting a road bike, but was reading the reveiws of this bike and everyone was saying "if I could only have one bike I'd get this one" and "I've beat much more expensive road bikes". And they were all talking about how versatile it is.

And the areas I want to start out riding are the cool roads that crisscross around Griffith Park and the hollywood hills. They are mostly closed to vehicle traffic, so it would be less of a worry for me. I'm worried about getting hit on a road bike.

The roads seem to be in decent condition, but have rough sections and pebbles or gravel for short stretches on a few of them, so I though maybe a versatile bike would be good.

It seems I could use this bike on pure road rides too, without too much grief, except maybe purists would turn up their noses at me. But I couldn't care less about that.

I'd do a SCIC road ride, that would be very fun! Someone could show me road bike etiquette.
A really durable bike would be a Giant OCR touring. Ready for loaded
touring and comes with Avid road disk brakes. Slap a set of skinnier
tires on it and away you go for quick, unloaded road rides
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Old 08-11-2003, 03:00 PM   #14
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A cross bike is good for the road if you take the nobbies off and put on some slicks. The purist will respect you if you ride a cross bike on the road. I use my cross bike sometimes on the road to commute. It will not be the best bike for triathalons though.

Redline makes a great cross bike with better componants than the Bianchi.

Redline Look under Adult bikes/Cyclecross/CONQUEST


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Old 08-11-2003, 03:02 PM   #15
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I'm not going to knock your hobbies or activities or anything but how can you pay $1000 for a metal frame, two wheels, a seat, and pedals?

and what do they do to these bikes that costs so much money? How much could it possibly cost to develop these things to justify a $1000 price tag?
I have a Sycip Frame, and that alone cost over $1200 new! (I got it for $325 used, a freaking sweet deal)

But it still ended up costing me over $1600 once I finished building it.

But it's a sweet bike!
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Old 08-11-2003, 03:05 PM   #16
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And the areas I want to start out riding are the cool roads that crisscross around Griffith Park and the hollywood hills. They are mostly closed to vehicle traffic, so it would be less of a worry for me. I'm worried about getting hit on a road bike.

I'd do a SCIC road ride, that would be very fun! Someone could show me road bike etiquette.
I like the theory of a cyclocross, but have never tried one. Like most bikes, they are "pupose-built" machines...they are not going to be the BEST either on-road or off, but can handle both conditions. On pavement, the true road bike will clearly be the best choice. If you put the same rider on a full road bike and then a cyclocross bike, the road bike would be faster and more efficient. It will not, however do well on a fireroad, or off a curb, etc.

WagonMonster: The beater I was building while you built the Sycip has since become a singlespeed.
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Old 08-11-2003, 03:08 PM   #17
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Sweet!

Oh, and Steven, I used to always ride around Griffith Park when I lived in LA. There are some great roads there
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If you can afford it, try to get at least Shimano Ultegra components. They are everybit as reliable as Dura Ace, just a wee bit heaviery.

Bikes in the $1100 - $1800 range usually come standard with these. Also, try to find a deal that includes clipless pedals.

And to the guy who could not comprehend a $1000 bike, that is cheap if you are a serious rider. My frame alone retailed for $1500 - a landshark, (luckily I got it for $900 through my coach).

I've spent $1200 just for carbon rims (FiR).

My bike as it is right now would probably retail for $3,000. (Dura Ace, Ouzo pro fork (custom paint) , prima bars, look pedals, velomax rims, 1999 landshark frame w/custom paint)

The frame is dedaccai steel @ 2.5 lbs, total weight just under 17lbs.
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Considering that you don't know much about road bikes, I suggest you go to your local bike shop and see what they have. They'll be able to fit you and let you ride several different bikes with different frame materials to see what you like best. Check out the Specialized Allez line or even Trek. They both have models in your price range. For $1000, try to get as many Shimano 105 compnents as you can, and aluminum seems more realistic for that amount than high-quality steel, although for a couple hundred more you can find lots of nice steel bikes.
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Sweet!

Oh, and Steven, I used to always ride around Griffith Park when I lived in LA. There are some great roads there
You ever do the zoo ride, up through Tuna Canyon, etc.?
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If you can afford it, try to get at least Shimano Ultegra components. They are everybit as reliable as Dura Ace, just a wee bit heaviery.

Actually, the new 2003 105 Components are excellent! They're almost as good as Ultegra now and they're a bit cheaper. And they come in Black!

I have 105 Cranks, derailleurs and brakes. Everything else is Ultegra.

Here's a pic from when I was still building the bike

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Old 08-11-2003, 03:29 PM   #22
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Considering that you don't know much about road bikes, I suggest you go to your local bike shop and see what they have.
Yeah, I'll do that. But considering that NASIOC has 40k members many suby owners are athletic types, I thought I would fish for opinions here, too.

At bike shops people want to make a sale, and if they don't carry a bike, they won't reccomend it, so I could be missing a good bike if I go to the wrong shop.


thanks for the info people! I can't wait to go get one. I think I'll have to wait for the weekend, though, because I can't get to any good bike shops on weekdays.

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Oh, and 99% of the staff at Local Bike shops are total snobs who are bitter because they get paid so little.
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Hey, where were all you guys when I asked for help last week? Just kidding.

On sizing, I found an online tool that was very helpful for me.
http://cycling.bsn.com/cgi-bin/ergobike.cgi
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wow, that's nifty! thanks!

I wanna measure myself at work, but people would stare.
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