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Old 09-27-2003, 01:11 PM   #1
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I have been noticing very small pieces of something in my oil! It has me a little freaked out because they look like small pieces of metal!! I've been changing my oil faithfully every 2500 miles and I don't drive the car like I'm at Pikes Peak. My 98 2.5L has 63000 miles and the car runs great. Is this normal wear and tear? I honestly am starting to doubt the Unorthodox Racing underdrive pulley I put on, because my theory is the damn pulley is making my crankshaft vibrate possibly causing it to nick the bearings or something else in the crankcase. This would possibly explain the small particles(metal?) in my oil. I use Castrol 10W-40. Help relieve my anxiety!!!!
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Old 09-28-2003, 12:54 AM   #2
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Well uhh I have never had problems from my udp yet...:knocks on wood:, and its been on for +50k miles.

You DO have a different motor though, so I dunno.
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Old 09-28-2003, 07:40 PM   #3
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I seriously doubt that it is the udp, but what size particles are we talking about here? I'm assuming it's not chunks since I think you might be having some additional problems if it was. How are you finding them? Can you see particles suspended in the oil or do you just see it around a magnet on the drain plug? what color are the particles, and how much is there? Usually a small amount of fine particulates gobbed onto the magnet on the drain plug is normal, If you have a lot, you may have a problem. Amount of particulate and size are really the key factors here. Bigger peices = bad news just as more peices = bad news.

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Old 09-28-2003, 11:09 PM   #4
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I am seeing them on the dip stick when I check my oil. Today, there weren't any on the dipstick when I checked the oil. The particles are very small silver pieces that cling to my dipstick. I do not have a magnetic oil drain plug. I am hoping that I am just seeing normal wear and tear on the engine even though I think at 63000 miles, it is a little early.
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Old 09-29-2003, 12:19 AM   #5
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send you oil to blackstone labs. you can order an oil analysis sample collector for free from blackstone. they'll be able to tell you EVERYTHING. also, have you heard any new noises, like a ticking, or a tapping. that's pretty indicitive of a bearing about to go is when it starts to tick. however, just don't get paranoid and assume everything you hear is your engine ready to blow.
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Old 09-29-2003, 09:32 AM   #6
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I haven't heard any noises out of the ordinary except for the legendary piston slap that plagues my car, even when it is hot sometimes. My car runs great and the engine idles very smooth after I drive it for a while. Any idea how much it cost to have my oil analysed?
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Old 09-29-2003, 11:15 AM   #7
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An oil analysis will cost you around $40 plus shipping. If possible, send them your oil filter, too. If there is indeed metal in your oil the filter probably caught some. Don't jump to conclusions until you have some hard evidence that your engine is toast.
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Old 09-29-2003, 02:37 PM   #8
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I'd invest in a magnetic drain plug either way.
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Old 09-29-2003, 06:15 PM   #9
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orndog: I'd invest in a magnetic drain plug either way.
I'd almost rather just keep the fumoto valve (one of THE BEST MODS!), sure a magnet is great but honestly the filter catches most particulates so there is much less of a factor of need whne compared ith the rear diff (which has a magnet stock).

I was hoping you would say something a little more determining as to whether it's normal wear and tear or not. It really does sound normal but if you are freaked out spring for the oil analysis. They really can tell you everything about what is going on. Do to some of the differnet metals in our engine if there is a problem they can tell you from what part it stems fro(sometimes ). Honestly though don't get parinoid, remember many owners don't even change their oil let alone look at it for irregularities. I'm sure your car is in good hands.
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Old 09-29-2003, 07:26 PM   #10
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And how far do the threads of that valve stick up into the pan? Heavier particles that have sunk to the bottom will never get drained.
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Old 09-30-2003, 01:22 AM   #11
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Yeah that is a known issuse with older Fumoto Valves. Many just file the few extra threads down to the correct length. I think this may have been fixed recently though. Others have stated that when installed w/ a new crush washer (as all non Fumoto valve, oil changes need) the correct length is acheived. Some have even talked about doubleing up crush washers to get the correct length but I think that is a poor solution.
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Q. Does my Engine Oil Drain Valve protrude into the interior of the oil pan and prevent full drainage of my engine oil?
A. No. The threaded oil drain plug hole is always reinforced to accept the threaded bolt of the drain plug. In most cases, the Engine Oil Drain Valve will not extend past this threaded portion of the drain hole and will allow the oil to be properly drained. Your Engine Oil Drain Valve will let you drain your engine oil while it is hot without burning your hands and it is much more effective than trying to pump the oil out from above.

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