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Old 08-13-2003, 01:49 PM   #1
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Default Any other problems with the stock STi?

im in the market to buy either the STi or the EVO, and i knwo for sure most of u are going to be bias but is there anything u liked abotu the evo over the sti, and any other inside things i should know about that the dealership won't tell me?
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Old 08-13-2003, 01:57 PM   #2
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the seats and the handling aspect is better IMO than the STI, however doesn't take much to correct on the STI.

the ride, power delivery, internal styling are better on the STI than the EVO

Don't get the strut bar upgraded options on the EVO as they are way over priced for what they are. go for something like Cusco if needed.

EVO's can be found at invoice pretty much everywhere as they haven't sold as many as anticipated but the STI is getting easier to get at MSRP though now.

I've driven both and the STI is better for all round driveability whiles the EVO is a little harsher and more suited as a weekend car on the track IMO.

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Old 08-13-2003, 01:57 PM   #3
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do a search, this had been covered several times
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Old 08-13-2003, 02:08 PM   #4
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i have done a lot of research, ie the car and driver comparisons, the road and track, motor trend, forums such as this one. i was just wondering if there are any problems with the car even as little as the seats not adjusting properly, the doors vibratign too much.....

abnd i do have one problem with the STi. why did subaru not use an FMIC. the whole point of an intercooler is to keep everythign cool. in grade school everyoen learned that heat rises, so the colder air is at the bottom, which is why most intercoolers are front mounted. this is definately a negative for the STi. they ,meanign subaru, based this car off their rally car, which may i add has a FMIC. it seems that subaru loved the massive hoodscope so they wanted it to have some purpose besides lookin ugly as feces.
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Old 08-13-2003, 02:11 PM   #5
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Theere have been many evo vs. STi threads. Use the search at the top.

My opinion:

EVO:

+pros: exterior looks, steering, seats, handling, brakes
-cons: cheap/poor instruments, turbo lag (or little power/torque below 3500rpm), harsh suspension for everday street driving, no 6 spd?

STi:

+pros: Exterior looks, torque and hp, 6 spd, everyday driver friendly(not harsh over bumps rough stuff), seats, handling, DCCD, awesome instrument cluster etc..

For me the Sti was a better choice. However it wasn't a completely easy decision. I had a RS before (1st Subie) and loved everything about it. (torque, handling, reliability etc.. So I was definately holding the Sti to high expectations before I got it. It easily blew me away. I driven some very fast cars (TT Porsche, Ferrari's etc..) and while the STi and EVO is close to supercar performance, the STI (probably EVO too) is way easier to drive fast, and in my book a car that is easier to drive is easier to drive fast
The STi just ended up being a better "fit" for me. I drive the car everyday and needed something that could do it all. For the first time, I found a car that did that.

Good Luck,

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Old 08-13-2003, 02:16 PM   #6
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Originally posted by TbradfordH
i have done a lot of research, ie the car and driver comparisons, the road and track, motor trend, forums such as this one. i was just wondering if there are any problems with the car even as little as the seats not adjusting properly, the doors vibratign too much.....

abnd i do have one problem with the STi. why did subaru not use an FMIC. the whole point of an intercooler is to keep everythign cool. in grade school everyoen learned that heat rises, so the colder air is at the bottom, which is why most intercoolers are front mounted. this is definately a negative for the STi. they ,meanign subaru, based this car off their rally car, which may i add has a FMIC. it seems that subaru loved the massive hoodscope so they wanted it to have some purpose besides lookin ugly as feces.
The TMIC has been used by Subaru for many many years on WRX's worldwide. Why change a tried, tested and proven setup? Yes a FMIC has some advantages but so does a TMIC. (That topic has been beat up and put away)

Personally, FMIC looks cool but I'm more for the total package. The TMIC seems to be helping the turbo/engine produce 300 HP and 300 lbs.torque....which is great for me
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Old 08-13-2003, 03:29 PM   #7
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You do realize the length of the piping on a front mount intercooler on a boxer engine is really long and creates a TON of lag. Also you can in no way compare the WRC car to the STi.. they are completly different. I am tired of all these people jumpin on the STi/EVO bandwagon.
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Old 08-13-2003, 03:59 PM   #8
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You do realize the length of the piping on a front mount intercooler on a boxer engine is really long and creates a TON of lag. Also you can in no way compare the WRC car to the STi.. they are completly different. I am tired of all these people jumpin on the STi/EVO bandwagon.
Amen brother!

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Old 08-13-2003, 06:42 PM   #9
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I am tired of all these people jumpin on the STi/EVO bandwagon.
Yup.........better get used to it; the STi/Evo, or other rally derived/inspired car, is going to be the next Civic phenomenon............just wait ' til "previously enjoyed" affordable cars hit the market; should see some STis sporting "really tasteful" mods then.
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Old 08-13-2003, 07:36 PM   #10
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Insurance costs for some repairs should be less on the STi as well. . . .

Much cheaper to repair a small front-end hit when there's no pricey intercooler under the bumper to replace.
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Old 08-13-2003, 07:57 PM   #11
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heres something to think about,from what i heard the weak point on the evo is the clutch.It cost $1300 to replace the clutch on an evo,not including the clutch its self.this is at an import shop,not the dealers.I like the evo,the already have the car running 11's and 12's which is awesome.My friends have dsm's they have nothing but problems all the time.The cars are fast as hell,when they are running though.
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Old 08-14-2003, 09:36 AM   #12
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Yup.........better get used to it; the STi/Evo, or other rally derived/inspired car, is going to be the next Civic phenomenon............just wait ' til "previously enjoyed" affordable cars hit the market; should see some STis sporting "really tasteful" mods then.
I dont doubt that the car will come down in price when they are sold used. But I am hoping that it doesnt come down so much that every person has one, and if alot of people are gettin them, then they are wiser older folk.
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