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Old 08-18-2003, 03:45 PM   #1
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Default Richard Burns coming back to Subaru...

Just read this, probably should have checked if someone else posted it, but... solberg and burns... now that is a team to route for.... 555
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Old 08-18-2003, 05:38 PM   #2
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"Subaru is the team I've had the most success with," said Burns. "And I'm really looking forward to being part of it again. For the time being though I'm putting thoughts of next year to the back of my mind. My focus is the current season, there's still a long way to go, and I'll continue to push 100 per cent for the 2003 title."
Woo Hoo, Burnsie's back!
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Old 08-18-2003, 07:05 PM   #3
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I am sooo excited I can't stand it!! I have been keeping my fingers crossed that he'd be back! Thanks for the post!! I hadn't heard anything yet!!

WOO HOO !!!
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Old 08-18-2003, 07:18 PM   #4
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Tommi Makinen will be missed.

WAAAAAAHHHHHHOOOOOO. Burns is back.
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Old 08-18-2003, 07:19 PM   #5
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W00T!!!!!
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Old 08-18-2003, 08:41 PM   #6
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Does that mean Tommi is retiring? I didn't catch anything that said that. Is Subaru going to go with a three car spread next year or stay with the current two? That's what's wiping our team out in the points, two cars vs. three... come on man!
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Old 08-18-2003, 08:49 PM   #7
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Yes Makinen is retiring and Burns is coming back

http://www.swrt.com/434612.html

http://www.swrt.com/434309.html

And as far as I recall Toshi Arai is also racing for subaru he just is not in the lime light like tommi and peter. so that makes three.

Let us all not forget to Wish Peter a happy marriage since he just got hitched on sat.
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Old 08-18-2003, 09:09 PM   #8
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Hey, firedog, you missed this part:

The news follows the announcement earlier today that 39-year-old Tommi Makinen will retire from World Championship rallying at the end of the season, having spent the past two years with the 555 Subaru World Rally Team.
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Old 08-18-2003, 09:42 PM   #9
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And as far as I recall Toshi Arai is also racing for subaru he just is not in the lime light like tommi and peter. so that makes three.

Doesn't Toshi Arai drive Production GT?
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Old 08-18-2003, 11:51 PM   #10
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Doesn't Toshi Arai drive Production GT?

Well, sort of, he's currently first in the Group N standings. Good to see Burns coming back. I know some people didn't really care for him too much, but he is very good. I still like Petter better though! Tommi's decision to retire is not surprising. He just doesn't seem to have the desire any more.
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Old 08-19-2003, 01:50 AM   #11
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can subaru afford Burns?
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Old 08-19-2003, 04:10 AM   #12
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is Tommi retiring because he wants to, or is there nobody willing to give him a contract? He has certainly been performing like a has-been. It would sure be nice to see Subaru get a driver's and manufacturer's title again. <--Way to state the obvious, eh?
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Old 08-19-2003, 08:49 AM   #13
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A "has-been"??? I'm willing to bet Makinen can still out-drive about 99.9999992% of the planet, including, most likely, everyone on this board. He still also seems to have been able to claim some points this year. So I certainly don't think he deserves the disrespect of calling him a "has-been".

As for Burns, well I've always liked him. I can't see why he would be any more expensive than Makinen though. I mean, if you compare the two historically, Burns isn't even in the same league as Tommi...yet.
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Old 08-19-2003, 09:18 AM   #14
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Maybe its just me, but I was thrilled when the crybaby Burns left. I have never met anybody who complained more than that guy. Petter is full of life, Gronholm is a complete straight shooter, but Burns is always playing an angle. I cant be the only person who things this way...... anyone..... Buler.....

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Talking I have a trick for you all...

I even taught my dog to make funny noises when we say "Richard Burns" hahaha, she growls and sqeeks! Not that I dislike him persay, just that I look at him as a Metalica type... Only in it for the money not the fun of it. I mean most of us pay thousands just to go drifting on a dirt raod or start to get our skills up and he gets to do this for a living and make millions doing it. On a side note we also taught our dog to make a boxer engine grumble when we ask her what a subaru sounds like! I love this dog. Japanese Shiba Inu for those who wonder, best dogs on the planet!!!
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I do tend to agree he can be a bit of a crybaby. However, I try to ignore most sports interviews anyway. How often do any of these guys say anything really profound.
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A "has-been"??? I'm willing to bet Makinen can still out-drive about 99.9999992% of the planet, including, most likely, everyone on this board. He still also seems to have been able to claim some points this year. So I certainly don't think he deserves the disrespect of calling him a "has-been".

As for Burns, well I've always liked him. I can't see why he would be any more expensive than Makinen though. I mean, if you compare the two historically, Burns isn't even in the same league as Tommi...yet.
"like a has-been" is a simile. Yes, he can drive better than 99.9999992% of us. That's why he gets paid the big bucks. He just hasn't been performing up to the level that he has in the past. It's like he has lost the spark, his desire. Maybe he has had some difficult pressures on him more than usual lately. whatever the reason, I'm sure Subaru cannot afford to keep him at the high salary if he isn't performing up to snuff. Yes, it's high pressure, but that's life.
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Old 08-19-2003, 12:20 PM   #18
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He just hasn't been performing up to the level that he has in the past. It's like he has lost the spark, his desire. Maybe he has had some difficult pressures on him more than usual lately.
Makinen hasn't been the same since flipping his car upside-down, teetering on the edge of a cliff a couple of years ago.

Go Burns (next year ) and Solberg!

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"like a has-been" is a simile. Yes, he can drive better than 99.9999992% of us. That's why he gets paid the big bucks. He just hasn't been performing up to the level that he has in the past. It's like he has lost the spark, his desire. Maybe he has had some difficult pressures on him more than usual lately. whatever the reason, I'm sure Subaru cannot afford to keep him at the high salary if he isn't performing up to snuff. Yes, it's high pressure, but that's life.
Sorry, but I am uninformed when it come to the names of smilies, and I doubt I'm the only one.I don't disagree that it is probably a good time for him to retire. And I agree that he doesn't seem to live up to his previous standards. I just don't think it is appropriate to use phrases like "has-been" and "washed-up" for someone so respected in his sport. Especially since he is still at least "competative", instead of "the best".

And now for the really controvertial statement: It could also be that the Subarus aren't as competative either (and this is coming from a LONG time Sube owner/fan). It seems to me that the GDs just haven't been doing as well as the GCs in general. Now maybe that's because the other cars have gotten that much better, but it could also be because the GDs put on a little too much weight. However this is all just conjecture, so take it as worth a grain of salt.
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Makinen hasn't been the same since flipping his car upside-down, teetering on the edge of a cliff a couple of years ago.

Go Burns (next year ) and Solberg!

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Yep, since the crash at Corsica, he hasn't been the same. Even though he still almost got the title that year (until he DNF'd at Rally GB).
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Old 08-19-2003, 04:33 PM   #22
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Sounds great to me! Have only been watching the WRC over the last two seasons, but I think that Petter and Richard will make a great team. I love watching the WRC regardless, but I love it a lot more when there is a Suby still competing for the top three spots. Either way, I am sure we are all in for a fun time next year. Need to get Subaru back up to the top. WERD!
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Old 08-20-2003, 03:57 PM   #23
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Sorry, but I am uninformed when it come to the names of smilies, and I doubt I'm the only one.
He said similies, not smilies.

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Ah yes, I miss read "simile. I suppose I should up my carrot intake, or decrease my monitor resolution to something below 2048x1536. I thought that was a dumb comment about the smilies. Must get more sleep!!!
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Burns goes well, but he's just so boring. Petter has so much charisma, watching him go nuts when he took second in Finland almost brought tears to my eyes. Burns doesn't seem to get excited about much of anything.
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