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Old 08-16-2003, 01:04 AM   #1
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Default Engine undertray cut at the port??

I am 90% sure that my undertray was not cut when I got the car, but it definitly was after I took the car in for its first oil change. Had nasty hacksaw marks where someone had cut a section out on the drivers side near the drain plug.

All the new STi's also have the cut, but they seemed much smoother like they used a hotwire cutter or something.

HOWEVER the owners manual shows the undertray w/o any cut at all.

So can anyone think of a good reason for them to have cut it? I made the dealer order me one from japan just because having it cut is not acceptible in my book regardless of the reason.
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Old 08-16-2003, 01:58 AM   #2
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what dealer did you go to? Sounds like they got lazy. The splash guard isn't even that hard to remove.
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Old 08-16-2003, 03:24 AM   #3
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Mine was delivered whole. I heard of one person getting theirs cut when taking the car to the dealer for an oil change.

I'd have them replace it.

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Old 08-16-2003, 06:23 AM   #4
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Have them replace it. They should know that STi owners are going to be freaks and notice crap like this.
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Old 08-17-2003, 12:58 AM   #5
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I had my oil changed at the dealers and I just checked and yes, my undertray is cut. It's missing a peice that connects it to itself around the drain plug. So it's confimed this isn't normal right? I think I'll be talking to the dealership on Monday.
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Old 08-17-2003, 05:32 PM   #6
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I'm looking forward to hearing what the dealer's excuse for this is.

I guess it's not enough to take pics of the odom before going in for service. Now you have to do the undertray too.
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Old 08-17-2003, 05:46 PM   #7
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It sounds like maybe Subaru Western Region is instructing the technicians to do this in the 2004 New Model Update (NMUD) class.
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Old 08-18-2003, 12:58 AM   #8
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I does kinda seem like it was something the western region dealers were told to do. Yay!

I'll post what the dealer does/says after I talk to them tomorrow.
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Old 08-18-2003, 03:25 AM   #9
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if they cut your splash guards or any of the covering underneath the car i would just punch them straight in the face or tell them to go you know where and then punch them either way some1's got to pay for doing that to the car how could they be so stupid
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Old 08-18-2003, 07:22 AM   #10
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if they cut your splash guards or any of the covering underneath the car i would just punch them straight in the face or tell them to go you know where and then punch them either way some1's got to pay for doing that to the car how could they be so stupid
Wow.

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Old 08-18-2003, 10:15 AM   #11
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Seeing as how the drain plug is one of the most vulnerable points of the undercarriage, and that it has the most dire consequences if it fails, wouldn't cutting the tray defeat the entire purpose of having it in the first place.

Thank you. I don't think I'll even use the free oil change certificates they included with the car. I can't believe the laziness of some people.
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Old 08-18-2003, 11:26 AM   #12
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Well, the undertray is soft plastic, so I don't imagine it would provide a ton of protection to the drain plug. Maybe one sacrificial instance.

I think aerodynamics and water spray protection are the primary purposes of the splash guard.

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Old 08-18-2003, 12:19 PM   #13
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Default which leads me to ask....

I am surprised no one has started inquiring or maybe you guys have, but I would be putting a skidplate on maybe one from Primitive or whoever used to make them for the WRX. Same thing for the diff protection.

I think the Primitive and the (Gooseman made) skidplates had optional holes so your hand could get in there for oil changes, otherwise it was like 5 screws to remove the plate before an oil change.

This used to be pretty popular among the WRX when it came out.
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Old 08-18-2003, 01:03 PM   #14
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A metal version sounds better. But I'm thinking for the people who already had the cover modified by the dealer, it might be possible to at least clean it up with a dremel or something.

I'm also curious if this is any different from the WRX... did the cover prevent access to the oil drain plug, did dealers modify it, or did it come with an opening to the drain plug from factory.
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Old 08-18-2003, 02:51 PM   #15
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Ok here is a picture that I've modified to show where my undertray was cut. The red lines show the cuts. This isn't normal right?

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Old 08-19-2003, 02:13 AM   #16
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Is anyone elses undertray cut like this? It is starting to seem like it is a factory or port thing.
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Old 08-19-2003, 10:57 AM   #17
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Same with my car; have no idea if it was done by the selling dealer or at the Port.
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Old 08-19-2003, 10:58 AM   #18
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I have the same pattern on my car. This is either a factory or port activity as my car has not been to a dealer for an oil change.
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Old 08-19-2003, 03:28 PM   #19
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Well Its not there for protection, its there to get better cooling of the motor, and to provide more front downforce.

With that part cut out my tray atleast is starting to deform and sag. Which can't be good for it working properly.
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Old 08-19-2003, 10:10 PM   #20
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I have the same pattern on my car. This is either a factory or port activity as my car has not been to a dealer for an oil change.
Mine has the same opening. I also notice it in the new product guide information.


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Old 08-20-2003, 12:51 AM   #21
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Funny, I was thinking I was safe and that various other people had the cut undertray... well, mine's cut too. And it's never been in for service. I also had them do a light PDI, so maybe it is a port thing.

I took photos and will post later.

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