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Old 08-18-2003, 06:22 PM   #1
GMTarkin
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 9237
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Youngstown, Ohio
Vehicle:
2008 Saab Turbo X
400+ lbft

Unhappy more utec stg2 knock..

oh yay, I think they need to do some major updating with the utec for the 04's..

i have knock even with the stg2new map, tweaked it a bit, still knocking, i dunno whats going on here, but im running suggest boost, and its not liking me much i guess

I think the boost is reading off, my gauge says .12 mpa at most, but im gonna turn the boost back a little bit anyway


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 4585  +8.0 3.4  27  00    00   14.7 +20.8   39.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   3.4
 4701  +7.6 3.4  26  00    00   14.7 +21.5   40.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   3.4
 4761  +6.3 3.3  15  00    00   14.2 +28.1   35.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   3.2
 4541  +2.5 3.2   0  00    00   rich  +8.9   28.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   3.1
 4246  -1.4 2.7   0  00    00   24.0  +8.8   28.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   2.4
 3996  -5.1 2.1   0  00    00   24.0 +11.2   28.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   2.0
 3711  -7.9 2.6  17  00    00   24.0 +23.6   15.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   2.7
 3387  -6.5 2.6  19  00    00   17.6 +32.7   17.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   2.7
 3429  -4.1 2.7  19  00    00   16.5 +32.1   21.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   2.8
 3534  -0.6 3.0  40  00    00   15.3 +26.5   29.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   3.1
 3572  +3.1 3.3  82  30    00   12.5 +17.4   38.0 +17.0  +1.5 456.00 3.4
 3663  +6.7 3.5 100  60    00   12.8 +12.5   44.0 +16.0  +1.7 480.00 3.6
 3792 +10.8 3.5 100  80    00   13.8 +11.1   48.0 +14.6  +1.9 490.00 3.7
 3849 +14.5 3.6 100  90    00   13.8 +11.8   49.0 +15.2  +2.0 490.00 3.7
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 4880 +16.9 3.9 100  90    06   14.9 +12.5   59.0 +11.0  +1.0 490.00 3.9
 4945 +17.4 3.9  95  90    00   14.8 +11.8   62.0 +11.0  +0.8 490.00 3.9
 4789 +13.5 3.7   0  00    00   13.3  +8.9   34.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   3.5
 4887  +6.7 3.2   0  00    00   23.7  +8.8   34.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   3.0
 4866  +0.0 2.8   0  00    00   24.2  +8.6   34.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   2.7
 4852  -6.9 2.5   0  00    00   24.0 +11.1   34.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   2.4
 4844 -10.0 2.3   0  00    00   24.2 +10.9   34.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   2.3
 4789 -10.2 2.2   0  00    00   24.5 +10.9   34.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   2.5
 4775 -10.2 2.3   0  00    00   24.2 +10.9   34.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   2.3
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 3141  -4.1 2.5  17  00    00   14.2 +32.8   16.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   2.5
 3353  -2.8 2.6  20  00    00   14.1 +32.6   18.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   2.7
 3695  -0.8 2.9  30  00    00   14.6 +30.4   26.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   3.0
 4055  +2.1 3.3 100  30    00   14.8 +21.8   40.0 +19.3  +1.2 490.00 3.4
 4566  +5.7 3.6 100  50    00   13.6 +16.4   51.0 +20.5  +1.1 490.00 3.7
 5050  +9.8 3.8 100  70    00   14.5 +21.1   61.0 +21.0  +0.3 490.00 3.8
 5621 +13.5 3.9 100  80    00   rich +22.5   89.0 +21.0  +0.6 490.00 3.9
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 6561 +11.8 3.9   0  00    00   rich +32.4   81.0 ECU.   +0.7 ECU.   3.8
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 5241 +16.9 3.8 100  90    00   rich +17.6   83.0 +20.0  +0.6 490.00 3.9
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 4728  +1.0 2.9   0  00    00   lean  +8.6   16.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   2.7
 4409  -5.9 2.4   0  00    00   24.0 +11.3   16.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   2.2
 3732  -9.4 2.0   0  00    00   24.2 +11.4   16.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   1.9
 3766  -9.2 1.8   0  00    00   23.7 +11.4   16.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   1.6
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 6301 +11.8 3.8   0  00    00   rich +10.7   80.0 ECU.   +0.7 ECU.   3.6
 5941  +5.5 3.4   0  00    00   13.3  +8.8   80.0 ECU.   +0.7 ECU.   3.2
 5621  -0.6 2.9   0  00    00   lean  +8.9   80.0 ECU.   +0.1 ECU.   2.8
 5241  -6.5 2.6   0  00    00   23.7 +11.2   80.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   2.5
 4901  -9.0 3.1  64  10    00   24.0 +19.6   27.0 +22.4  +0.4 420.00 3.2
 3972  -5.1 3.4 100  10    00   20.1 +20.8   40.0 +19.0  +1.5 490.00 3.5
 4224  +1.0 3.6 100  50    00   13.9 +15.0   52.0 +18.5  +1.3 490.00 3.7
 4438  +8.2 3.7 100  80    00   14.0 +11.8   59.0 +17.0  +1.1 490.00 3.8
 4604 +13.9 3.7 100  90    00   13.5 +13.6   61.0 +18.0  +1.2 490.00 3.8
 4796 +16.9 3.7 100  90    00   12.9 +13.3   60.0 +19.0  +1.1 490.00 3.8
 4982 +18.0 3.8 100  90    00   13.5 +15.8   62.0 +19.1  +0.6 490.00 3.8
 5151 +18.2 3.8 100  90    00   13.7 +17.8   65.0 +20.0  +0.6 490.00 3.9
 5455 +17.8 3.9 100  90    00   rich +15.6   83.0 +20.0  +0.6 490.00 3.9
 5592 +17.4 3.9 100  80    00   rich +16.2   84.0 +21.0  +0.6 490.00 3.9
 5878 +16.1 3.9 100  70    00   rich +17.1   87.0 +22.0  +0.7 490.00 3.9
 6027 +14.5 3.9  99  70    00   rich +18.0   88.0 +22.0  +0.9 490.00 3.9
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 6349 +13.5 4.0 100  70    00   rich +21.5   87.0 +23.0  +0.8 490.00 3.9
 6093 +11.0 3.8   0  00    00   rich  +8.7   31.0 ECU.   +0.8 ECU.   3.6
 5747  +5.5 3.2   0  00    00   rich  +8.7   56.0 ECU.   +0.5 ECU.   3.1
 5602  -0.4 2.9   0  00    00   lean  +8.9   56.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   2.7
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 4492  -9.2 2.8  32  00    00   23.7 +21.7   21.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   3.0
 4528  -6.3 3.3 100  10    00   22.1 +25.2   31.0 +21.0  +0.5 490.00 3.4
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 4721  +5.3 3.7 100  70    07   13.2 +12.4   62.0 +10.4  +1.1 490.00 3.8
 4803 +11.0 3.8 100  80    00   13.1 +11.8   63.0 +11.0  +0.9 490.00 3.9
 4844 +13.3 3.7   2  00    00   13.7  +9.0    2.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   3.8
 4945  +9.2 3.5   0  00    00   24.0  +8.7    2.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   3.3
 4909  +3.1 3.0   0  00    00   23.7  +8.6    2.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   2.8
 4859  -3.3 2.5   0  00    00   24.0  +8.8    2.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   2.4
 4734  -8.8 2.3   0  00    00   23.7 +10.8    2.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   2.3
 4694  -9.6 2.2   0  00    00   24.0 +11.0    2.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   2.2
 4741 -10.0 2.3   0  00    00   24.0 +11.1    2.0 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.   2.3
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Old 08-18-2003, 06:23 PM   #2
GMTarkin
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 9237
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Youngstown, Ohio
Vehicle:
2008 Saab Turbo X
400+ lbft

Default

heres the map

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Map Name:-[STG2 NEW]
Map Comments:-[16.5 psi peak]
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Old 08-18-2003, 09:06 PM   #3
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Whats your traget boost? IIRC .12 = 17.40453 psi
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Old 08-18-2003, 10:17 PM   #4
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My advice is to lower the boost, it peaked at over 18psi in that log! Does your regular boost gauge report the same thing?

Your map is pretty rich too, you probably have some tuning to do there IMO.
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Old 08-18-2003, 11:55 PM   #5
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its rich because it came that way, turned the boost down quite a bit, peaks at .115 in 4th now, still need to do more testing

i didnt think a rich map would cause knock, does it?
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Old 08-19-2003, 01:28 AM   #6
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Tarkin,

You really can't run that much boost through the stock turbo, not with any efficiency.

Everything I've heard and been told indicates 16.0-16.5 on pump gas is the absolute maximum you can pull, at least with stage 2 mods. You're hitting over 18 in your logs, and maintaining 17+ for long periods. Even if you don't knock, you're not going to run clean there.

Also, during that first WOT run, your AFRs are way too low. AFR during those kind of runs should show up as "rich", at least once the system catches up to your throttle. This is because the stock O2 sensor can't detect less than a 12.0 ratio. You should be 11 or less at those load levels.

Do you have an EGT gauge? If so, what are you seeing at those levels?

A rich map won't cause knock, but it can lose you some power. But, in practice, you're not running rich. Those long strings of high 14s and 15s in AFR are lean, lean, lean.

What is your ABC set to? Having your high boost levels reading 490 seems high to me, but every car is different.

I would probably tune down boost, until you're seeing 16.1 or so, and tune from there.

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Old 08-19-2003, 01:32 AM   #7
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Also, the stage2new map is OLB, and you're running CLB. Did you set it up that way or did you get the map from someone else? The thing with CLB is, all cars are different. My car sustains 15.9-16.1 and peaks at 16.6 or so with 150 in 60%, 300 in 70% and 345 in 80-100% load sites, for all revs. Phil at TXS indicated that most stage 2 cars run around 310 in the high sites in CLB, but I've heard that some cars run 200 there and others run 400 there. So you should probably tune it down and then tune it up to where you want to be.

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Old 08-19-2003, 10:44 PM   #8
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I seem to have fixed the knock, i can only hope its permenant, hasnt knocked since....

how i fixed it?

Grounding mod.... amazing, would have never thought this would fix my problem, but it seems it has, when nothing else fixed it, i just put the knoc out of my mind and drove the car careful, until i could figure out what to do... well, i was looking at potential upcoming mods and saw the grounding mod, i figure what the hell, im gonna do it, so i go to my friends dad's car audio place and pick up some 8ga, 4ga wire, ring ends, and a distributor...

I finish the mod, with a total of $26.50 invested, and go take it for a drive... push it hard, just laughing about the idea that this minght finx my knock... Well, sure enough, i noticed the mod, acceleration was alot smoother than before, with no stuttering at all (remember this, kinda like the movie speed and the gold watch), well, i start to wonder what happened to my knock, it hasnt happened once, so i go do a few freeway pulls, sure enough, its completely gone!!

which brings me back to the stuttering, everytime i would knock in the past, it would stutter a little, then sure enough the cel would flash, and im knocking... well... its gone, im so happy, and it only cost be $26.50!! WOOHOO!! much praise for the grounding mod, im gonna give it some more driving tomorrow, but i havent gotten knock once at all since doing the mod, and before i could make it knock pretty easy by doing some WOT pulls
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Old 08-19-2003, 11:25 PM   #9
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What everyone needs to talk about is this row:


4721 +5.3 3.7 100 70 07 13.2 +12.4 62.0 +10.4 +1.1 490.00 3.8


04's have this issue... 5.3 psi. WOT. 70 row? Seven knocks?

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Old 08-19-2003, 11:53 PM   #10
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dunno, gone now, strangely enough...

im so happy =)
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What everyone needs to talk about is this row:


4721 +5.3 3.7 100 70 07 13.2 +12.4 62.0 +10.4 +1.1 490.00 3.8


04's have this issue... 5.3 psi. WOT. 70 row? Seven knocks?

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Clark,

What would be your suggestion to fix this issue in an 04? I had to keep adding fuel and pull 1 degree of timing in some areas to get mine to quit knocking.
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less boost.. much less.. cut it down to peaking at 16.5 you wont lose any power as the turbo isn't moving any more air above that anyway....

Also you may have to add some fuel to the high load areas.. your map seems a little rich in lower boost areas and lean in others but that is assuming your stock ecu is doing things the same as mine but its different in every car.. to correctly tune fuel you need a WB02.... if you get your fuel map spot on it will be much easier to fine tune things... off the shelf maps are only a place to begin they are not meant to be the answer to your tuning prayers.
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