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Old 08-21-2003, 07:27 AM   #1
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Default When are people changing timing belts?

I know that the recommended timing belt change is 105,000 miles, but when are people actually changing them. I am at 60,000 miles and just a little leary.
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Old 08-21-2003, 03:30 PM   #2
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At the 96,000 km service.
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Old 08-22-2003, 01:21 AM   #3
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The 105000 mile mark is to comply with California emission laws.

I'd do it at 60,000, especially if you can do it yourself. Timing belts are cheap insurance for an interference motor.
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Old 08-23-2003, 07:14 PM   #4
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I changed mine at 111,000. I checked it against the new belt and the teeth all looked the same, no knicks, cracks, marks or anything. Both belts were of the same length so I don't believe there was any stretching. This is not to say that the old belt wouldn't have broken but I believe that who ever makes these belts makes them to last longer than what Subaru states in their owners guide.

I would say no later than 105,000 miles.
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Old 08-24-2003, 02:18 PM   #5
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I changed mine at 111,000. I checked it against the new belt and the teeth all looked the same, no knicks, cracks, marks or anything. Both belts were of the same length so I don't believe there was any stretching. This is not to say that the old belt wouldn't have broken but I believe that who ever makes these belts makes them to last longer than what Subaru states in their owners guide.

I would say no later than 105,000 miles.
did u pull the water pump too? how was it condition?

cuz i've done a few for honda's, and at 100k, the belt and pump seems too always look good, then again, these cars were maintain well
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Old 08-26-2003, 07:13 AM   #6
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I didn't pull the pump. I just didn't have the money at the time. Although if I ever need a pump it won't be that hard to do.

The pump looked good. No squeaking or lateral movement. It turned smoothly. I figure though in about another 25k - 50k it will need one.

I did have to replace the timing belt tensioner though. Mine was making that awful noise when first started. A loud tapping noise like the car had no oil. Noise is now gone.
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Old 08-27-2003, 04:15 PM   #7
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I was working for a dealer this summer and they talked about a few cases of timing belt failing between 100-110K km or 65-70K miles on those who recommend 160K km or 100K miles. wouldn't take a chance on these. mine will be changed at 100 000 km
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Old 08-28-2003, 01:26 PM   #8
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I have 92k miles on my 00RS. Timing belt will be done within the next month or so. Both miles and time take its toll on the belts. Figure cars that are driven into high miles in a short time are different than a here and there car with the same amount of miles over a longer period of time.
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Old 08-28-2003, 02:11 PM   #9
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Default I would say..

If you have the major services/inspections performed on your car, and the timing belt breaks BEFORE the manual requires replacement - you should get a new engine. Seems like Subaru would have worked to prevent this happening - as it doesn't seem financially smart for them to suggest replacing a critical item at 100k miles that *could* fail at 60-70k miles.

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Old 08-28-2003, 03:48 PM   #10
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For what it's worth, dealers here replace at 60K mi. service.
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Old 12-23-2003, 09:43 PM   #11
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So, I'm a bit confused with the terminology in the maintenance manuals.

Is the SUBARU "Camshaft drive belt" the same as a "Timing belt" of other vehicles, like Toyotas, Fords, etc.??

Your information is appreciated,

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Old 12-23-2003, 10:07 PM   #12
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Camshaft drive belt is the timing belt.
The belt that controls the timing, no?
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Old 12-23-2003, 10:25 PM   #13
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I have a CA-spec Legacy. The manual said change the belt every 105,000 miles instead of 60k, which is for non-CA cars. The dealer said the belts were all the same and should all be done at 60k.
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Old 12-24-2003, 10:11 AM   #14
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The dealer says 60k, because the dealer gets paid almost twice as often as if it's replaced at 100k. They have nothing to gain by telling you there's a longer interval. I'm not saying it's not a good idea to swap at 60k, but there's a definite bias, if the dealer's your source. I've been seriously thinking about both our cars, as my wife's OBS has~75k, and I'm just under 80k. How much are people paying for this, and is anybody DIY-ing it?

-I guess that'd be DIT.

I miss my SVX's timing chain - and it's prodigious power.
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Old 12-24-2003, 12:45 PM   #15
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Toyota recommends a timing belt change at 70k on their MAX service schedule. If you can do it yourself, do it sooner. Spark plugs are rated at 100k, but do you think they are deliver the same spark at 100k than 50k?


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Old 12-24-2003, 08:37 PM   #16
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The dealer says 60k, because the dealer gets paid almost twice as often as if it's replaced at 100k. They have nothing to gain by telling you there's a longer interval. I'm not saying it's not a good idea to swap at 60k, but there's a definite bias, if the dealer's your source. .
True, but I looked at the belts and they are exactly the same. It seemed crazy to leave it twice as long as recommended for non-CA cars.
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Old 12-25-2003, 08:51 PM   #17
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IIRC I read once that the CA 105K change has something to do with their emissions regulations and nothing to do with when Subaru thinks it ought to be changed.
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Old 12-28-2003, 12:09 PM   #18
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what have you paid for timing belt and water pump replacement at a dealership? what should i expect to pay at a dealer or elsewhere? i can't do it myself.
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Old 12-28-2003, 01:23 PM   #19
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60k seems awfully low mileage, to me. Most car manufacturers that I've seen say about 90k. Subaru is indeed a bit higher.
Oh well.


I replaced mine by necessity at about 65k or a bit more. (I forget.) My timing belt tensioner blew, so I told them to just replace the belt while they were at it. ("They" = Exeter Subaru in NH.)

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