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Old 08-22-2003, 02:04 PM   #1
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My battery is dead, and it is time for a new one. (money is tight right now) And I really want to go light weight. Any recomendations. I would've done a search, but it seems to be down right now. I've heard people mention lawn mower batteries. This sounds cool to me, but I don't want to a have to be worried about it dying on me. Any rapid input would be apprecaited
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Old 08-22-2003, 03:00 PM   #2
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my next battery will be an optimus...

should be lighter, i do not think they have lead in them...

do not know for sure
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Old 08-22-2003, 03:03 PM   #3
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whoops wrong one... optima
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Old 08-22-2003, 03:09 PM   #4
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yeah optimus is a transformer
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Old 08-22-2003, 03:42 PM   #5
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my next battery will be an optimus...

should be lighter, i do not think they have lead in them...

do not know for sure
optimas are not lighter... and overpriced, but they are good...
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Old 08-22-2003, 03:43 PM   #6
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I found the optima 6v red-top delviers plenty of Cold-cranking amps. But it is 6v. will that make a difference???
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Old 08-22-2003, 03:43 PM   #7
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oh and it only weighs like 15lbs
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Old 08-22-2003, 03:47 PM   #8
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DanzBorin help me.
I know nothing about batteries
go to www.batterymart.com
I've narrowed it down to the:
Miata battery
Oddyssey pc680
Optima 6v red-top

which one would be the best
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Old 08-22-2003, 04:14 PM   #9
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6 volt- you're kidding right?
All cars use a 12 volt electrical system so the 6 volt battery is not what you need.
The one directly above it is more like it although that particular one is a Group 34 which is larger than you really need. It should fit in your 2000 although it's a bit tight in the '02- up. All you really need is a Group 35 which is somewhat smaller and lighter but still has over double the cranking capacity of your stock battery. That particular vendor may not carry them but other places that sell Optimas will have it. If there is a Pep Boys near you they sell the Group 35 Red over the counter.
I have a Group 35 Red-Top in my car and it's been great. Much faster cranking in cold weather, zero maintenance and it works as well now as when I put it in a year ago. I fully expect it to last the life of the car so based on that the cost isn't really that high.
The only caveat about this battery is you may have to replace your starter cable because of the different terminal locations on the Optima. I did this on my WRX, but I don't know for sure if it's the same on the GC, your cable might reach. If it doesn't it's not a big deal, all you need is a universal replacement starter cable for $5 from any parts store.
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Old 08-22-2003, 04:19 PM   #10
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I should've isssued a disclaimer in my first post.But I guees better late than never.
*disclaimer*
I know nothing about electricity
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Old 08-22-2003, 06:38 PM   #11
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well considering the fact that I have basically no money I went to walmart and bought a lawn mower battery. And My car started up just fine. I haven't managed to secure the battery yet, and I need a different type of attaching cable for my postive side, but spent $25 got a 15lb battery and my car starts. That is a win in my book. I'll let you know if anything goes wrong.
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Old 08-22-2003, 06:47 PM   #12
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i have an optima red top, its crap... it doesnt hold a charge for long with the ignition off
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Old 08-22-2003, 06:59 PM   #13
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Well since you know nothing about electricity I'll help you out a bit. The capacity of a lawn mower battery is enough for, well, a lawn mower. Not a car. Yes it will "work" in your car, it will start the engine and the alternator will recharge it. However, a couple of things to keep in mind-
The cranking capacity of that battery is much lower than that of your car battery. It is not going to be able to operate the starter for nearly as long, or at the same speed, before running down. You're in Florida, so cold temps probably aren't going to be a problem there. However if you start your car frequently, or if for any reason it has to crank for an unusually long time (or repeatedly) to start, you may find yourself with a dead battery.
The overall capacity, or amp-hours, of this type of battery will be very low compared to your original automotive battery. It will not take very much drain with the engine off before it goes dead. This would include leaving a light on inside the car, accidentally flipping that parking light switch on the steering column and leaving it for a few hours, playing the radio for a long time etc.
The electrical system in a lawn mower has an alternator or generator that probably puts out only a few amps at best for recharging the battery because that is all it needs, and the battery is designed to work with that system. You have now installed this battery in an automotive system which is capable of charging the battery with much more current than it was designed for, so there is the possibility that it may overcharge and be damaged, or worse overflow and spill acid in the engine compartment.
So, you really haven't done yourself any favors for that $25. If you really wanted a 15lb. battery that was intended for automotive use, you should have gotten one. Yes they are more expensive but there is a reason.
My suggestion is that if you are short on cash and need a new battery, forget about the lightweight idea, go to the parts store, and buy yourself the cheapest replacement battery they sell that will fit your car. You will be better off and so will your car. I'd say to return the battery you just bought to the store but chances are they won't take it back.
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Old 08-22-2003, 07:01 PM   #14
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i have an optima red top, its crap... it doesnt hold a charge for long with the ignition off
Hmm, based on my experience as well as that of others with the same battery I'd say you just got a bad one. There is a warranty on them, I forget the exact terms but you should be able to get some credit for it if you take it back where you got it.
Are you sure your charging system is working properly?
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Old 08-23-2003, 09:28 PM   #15
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Just recieved a unexpected check for $600 from my grandma. It was an investment that I put away a few years ago. It never did anything so we decided to take it out. So money problems are solved. I also noticed that my new battery was a little slow after making some "test drives" (short trips) so I went out and bought a red top. The lightweight endovour will have to wait till I'm out of fire academy.
(that's why I'm so short on money. I have to go 4 months without any work)

So moral of the story is sometimes money falls from the sky and starts your car.
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Old 08-25-2003, 01:42 AM   #16
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Both my moms car and my car both needed new batteries...I ended up buying some duralast battery w/ 550 cold cranking amps.

What does the stock battery put out as far as cold cranking amps?

For 50bucks it wasnt as bad as I thought it'd be.

-justin
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Old 08-25-2003, 09:09 AM   #17
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i have an optima red top, its crap... it doesnt hold a charge for long with the ignition off
the red top isn't a deap cycling battery... so it isn't expected to outperform all batteries... the yellow top would be what you want...
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Old 08-25-2003, 11:31 AM   #18
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My $25 lawnmower battery has 350CCA with a reserve of 275. Still weighs 15lbs and hasn't given me any problems thus far. I won't be starting it much over the winter and it'll be on a bettery tender during that time.

I had to change my cables too, but that's because I put it in the trunk.

Lawnmower batteries have come a long way since 1975....


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