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Old 09-02-2003, 02:16 PM   #1
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Default Want to lower my MY'00 Outback

anyone here done this, either with a set of springs (whiteline, etc.) or a full Legacy GT suspension? I'm not looking for a ground scraper, just a bit of 'altitude adjustment'.

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Old 09-02-2003, 03:49 PM   #2
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Do a search, there is a guy out there who basically "GT'D" his Outback. Everything is documented and well explained.

The big trouble (and the main reason why I didn't pursue GT'ing my Outback) is that the Outback 15" wheels end up rubbing on the GT suspension.

I just bought new summers and I have a a good set of 15" winters on steelies. That'd mean foregoing these wheels and tires for new aftermarket wheels or tracking down a good set of 16" GT wheels (still one of my all time favs GTW!). Probably would be looking at purchasing new rubber at the same time.

I wasn't about to go to all that trouble just for some performance and "attitude" as you so poetically put it! Cool project, IMO though not worth it for a daily driver.

Best bet would be to find a wreck or someone on the forum looking at modding their GT's suspension and wheels.

Ciao, and good luck!
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Old 09-03-2003, 01:00 AM   #3
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Something to consider: To my knowledge, no one has replaced the suspension on a BH Outback with LSE/GT suspension to date. It may be a more complicated operation considering the multilink suspension in the rear versus the BD/BG strut setup. I'd say keep most of the ride-height and try to flatten it out with larger swap bars along with aftermarket springs if available. Good luck.

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Old 09-05-2003, 04:34 AM   #4
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Old 09-05-2003, 06:12 AM   #5
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Thanks for the replies!

I am leaning toward a simple spring drop so I can still use the wheels and tires I have now. Any recommendations? I have seen that Whiteline offers springs, but none of thier listed U.S. vendors have them. (PDM seems to be 're-organizing' so who knows what will happen there...

How about sway bars? Most vendors list only rear bars. Is that because of the terrible understeer that these cars exhibit? I will be happy to get rid of that, but what is the preferred rear bar diameter( I've seen 20, 22, and 24 listed)?
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Old 09-11-2003, 12:23 AM   #6
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Talk to SubieGal at www.Allsubaru.com
She is local to me and is very helpful. She has at least 3 sets of whiteline, Outback lowering springs in Stock. As for a Sway bar I say whiteline adj. 20 to 24mm. that will be plenty stiff. Then do a rear strut tower brace from Whiteline. You'll be all set.
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Old 09-11-2003, 08:17 AM   #7
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Thanks Russel,
I will give Jamie a shout! I found some Legacy GT wagon stuff locally for a good price (swaybars, and strut bars F & R) I've contacted a few vendor about this stuff, but they are busy I'm sure. If Jamie has 'em I'm buying 'em!

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Old 09-12-2003, 03:29 AM   #8
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She is very cool. If you want to go another route. Coilovers will also work, namely DMS 50's. You can have them made for a specific drop and dampening you want. If you have any other questions, or need any other help tracking down parts, feel free to PM me.
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Old 09-13-2003, 04:42 PM   #9
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I have a set of springs on the way. Thanks Russell for the tip(PM'd you yesterday BTW)!!! I am about to go crawl under the car to see what is involved with the swaybars. I got a good price on front and rear swaybars, and front and rear strut bars from a local guy who traded up (over?) to an STi. Springs next weekend if I can get the time....hopefully this will do the trick...if not, I'm hijacking the wife's A4!!!
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Old 09-14-2003, 03:32 AM   #10
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This is starting to sound interesting. I might be wrong, but you might have the first lowered BH Outback on the board. Ya just don't see that many lowered 3rd gen Legacy's. Good luck! Insert obligatory request for pics when available here.

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Old 09-14-2003, 05:17 AM   #11
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dude thats sweet, I hope everything works out. Let me know how everything goes. Your Outback won't be as low as mine though. I did all WRX suspension so it slammed my car 4 inches all around. The ride is even still pretty good ,,
Good luck, I love Lowered Outbacks,
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Old 09-15-2003, 06:54 AM   #12
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I finally spoke with Jamie Friday night. I had just picked up the swaybars from a guy in MA who traded his '03 GT wagon for an STi.

At any rate, I ordered the springs (they only make the 30mm "control" version for the '00+ Outback). I'm not looking for a 'slam' as it has to pass the wife's approval, and truthfully I need some ground clearance (my miata has the 'slam' covered already)

The rear swaybar, and front strut bar are in. The rear strut bar I got from the guy won't fit this car (perhaps it is for the earlier model?). I plan to put the front swaybar in when the springs arrive, so it only comes apart once!!!

I'll take a before/after picture but I don't expect it to be a noticeable difference in ride height...mainly looking for a more controlled ride as this thing is a boat compared to my wife's A4 Avant!
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Old 09-19-2003, 10:02 PM   #13
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Cool lowering

I too, would like to lower outback sedan about 1". I bought mine for the H6 motor, which is sweet. I've only had it a month, but I picture it lower. I also wonder about rear camber, it appears to have some negative camber, and looks odd, I hope I can adjust it to neutral or slightly positive.
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Old 09-19-2003, 10:23 PM   #14
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negative camber would probably be better if youre looking for improved handling.
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Old 09-20-2003, 07:15 AM   #15
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Mine has (what looks to the naked eye) like positive camber, both front and rear. I am hoping the spring drop will neutralize this (and push it to negative a bit. Regardless...I will get an alignment when all of the stuff is finally installed (maybe next weekend).

CToutback...shoot me a PM, and let me know where in CT you are. Once this is done, you may want to have a look!
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Old 09-25-2003, 12:07 PM   #16
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I put the front springs on last night...rears tonight...Let's just say that the springs drop the car more than 30mm!

Unfortunately the camera was MIA last night, so no 'before' pics.
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Old 09-25-2003, 01:02 PM   #17
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I want to correct my previous post, what I should have said is that the rear wheels on my outback sedan appear to have positive camber! Does anyone know if it can be adjusted?
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Old 09-26-2003, 01:08 PM   #18
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Okay folks...here it is:

Start

F: 16-5/8

R: 15-3/4

Finish

F: 15

R: 14-1/2

Camber didn't change, front or rear! No eccentrics in the rear at all, and the fronts have gradations on the bolts but don't seem to be eccentric at all!

How do you adjust camber on one of these?

No pics yet, as the camera is still among the missing...It looks good though! One of my front struts is tired, and I will be replacing both soon(40k), but the ride is only slightly firmer than stock.
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