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Old 02-19-2001, 01:46 PM   #1
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I dunno... 450 ft lbs and steamroller tires do quite a bit for off the line performance!
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Old 02-19-2001, 01:49 PM   #2
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dont forget ALL that torque going through 2, count 'em 2 wheels....
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Old 02-19-2001, 01:53 PM   #3
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Just in case you didn't know, the lightning has been around for quite a while. The new lightning is only nominally quicker than the current version, but even the old ones would absolutely TROUNCE a WRX in a straight line. They are the fastest machine Ford builds except for the Cobra R (it beats a standard Cobra).

A local autocrosser tows his Z06 with his Lightning. Must be nice.
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Old 02-19-2001, 02:08 PM   #4
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yeah
a lightning is like a mid 13's machine from the factory... like a second faster than the wrx will be (speculating) ...
i still wouldnt drive one... i dont see myself in a pick up truck... no way no how...id rather drive a station wagon (audi, bmw or subie)
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Old 02-19-2001, 02:16 PM   #5
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i'd love to have one to pull around my race car. that'd be nice i came from a truck background. i was all into "sport trucks" before i became a import car fan. i could see me in a lightnin'
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Old 02-19-2001, 04:02 PM   #6
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I got a ride in a lightning at an autox once it was pretty fun but can't wait to get my rex. I am tired of my sport truck but it is fun to drive but not as much as I am anticipating in my future rex
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Old 02-19-2001, 04:28 PM   #7
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The 2001 Lightnings have 380hp and 450ft lbs of torque up from 360hp and 440ft lbs of torque that the '99-00 models have.

Real world times on the '99-00 are anywhere from mid 13's to low 14's depending on track conditions, weather, etc. I haven't seen any times on the '01 models yet but in nice cool weather and good track conditions I wouldn't doubt times will be into the low 13's. I've seen a lightly modded (exhaust, chip) Lightning hit high 12's in the heat last summer.

A well driven Lightning will also hit 1.9-2.0 60' times. I don't see the WRX doing much better.

I have a WRX on order and I definialty don't want to line up to a Lightning with it being stock. I have my Mustang for those encounters.

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Old 02-19-2001, 04:58 PM   #8
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how about a WRX vs. Lighting no holds barred 1/4 mile like the Toyota and the Lotus in those commercials?
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Old 02-19-2001, 05:25 PM   #9
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I hope you boys haven't forgotten the Typhoon or better yet the Syclone. The Ty ran the 1/4 in the high 13's, and 0-60 around 5's. the syclones did it quicker! 0-60 in the 4's, not to mention these trucks were made in the early 90's. Want to see picks, check out my roomates site. http://syty.bizland.com/.
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Old 02-19-2001, 05:27 PM   #10
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rally kid, I think the Lightning & the WRX would do just as poorly off road... I think the two vehicles have similar ground clearance issues.
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Old 02-19-2001, 05:29 PM   #11
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Haha! I was poking through MotorTrend's upcoming car list and here's what they had to say about the 2002 WRX:

" The 227-horse four-cylinder is matched with a five-speed manual or four-speed auto transmission, sport-tuned suspension, 16-wheels, aggressive styling, and full roster of creature comforts. The Impreza goes on sale in spring 2001, with WRX prices starting at $23,495."

Holy !#$@, 16 wheels??
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Old 02-19-2001, 05:48 PM   #12
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We have a few lightnings at our local track and they would whoop a stock WRX in the quarter. They are hitting mid to low 13's mostly stock.

I wouldn't race one in my turbo RS, at least not yet

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Old 02-19-2001, 05:57 PM   #13
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I know this is a silly thread to begin with, but...
A Lightning will whoop a WRX even off the line. I mean the WRX might have the first 30' of something but a guy in my neighbor hood has one and when he takes off in it, the damn thing moves! You'd be suprised how well those two friggin wide tires keep traction...

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Old 02-19-2001, 08:28 PM   #14
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Now try that in the rain. Me in my WRX and some redneck in his Lightning.

Me C-ya, lightning guy, g-damn rice burner!

I live in washington where it is wet most of the time.

I have also seen one of the newer ones at a auto x. I don't know if it was the driver or because it was a truck but he could not keep the thing in a straight line to save his life.

I'd take a cobra over it. Its still a truck.
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Old 02-19-2001, 08:29 PM   #15
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Don't be fooled by having all that power only going through the rear wheels; the Lightning STICKS and is truly amazing in its roadholding ability. The WRX will take it on a tight road course, but i have a feeling both would be very close on a more open track where the Lightning can open up (in the right hands, of course). It is a heavy vehicle, but there is no other truck i'd rather have.

That is one truck that truly lives up to its mean looks; i know, cause my dad has a '99 and i get to drive it sometimes I'm trying to get him to a track day to pit his Lil'Lightnin against my RS When i propose the challenge, all he says is "...its just my tow-truck..."

Akaita, it WAS the driver. Get someone who knows the Lightning & it WILL handle!

BTW, it ain't just NASCAR watchin rednecks that drive those things; I love our Lightning just as much as my RS. Its just DIFFERENT

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Old 02-19-2001, 08:37 PM   #16
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I always wanted a typhoon. I wish they still made them.
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Old 02-19-2001, 09:22 PM   #17
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I was just stiring the pot a little. No harm no foul.

hehehehe

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Old 02-19-2001, 11:18 PM   #18
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Now when you start talking about the "old" Lightenings, are you aware that they made one back in the early 90's? The 92-96 body style had one that was nothing special but a 351 windsor and a monochrome paint job. A quick truck, but somehow it was supposed to compete against the Chevy 454SS? I don't think so. Strike one for the Blue Oval. The current matchup of the Lightning vs C3 is every bit as lopsided, only in favor of the 'Oval. Enter rain, snow, or ice, and the C3 will walk all over it though.
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Old 02-20-2001, 12:09 AM   #19
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Wink WRX Competition - 2001 Ford SVT Lightning

WRX had better watch out(!) - because Ford is building the 2001 SVT F-150 Lightning. This supercharged 4,670 lb pick-up truck has 360 HP - and hits 60 MPH in 5.6 seconds!! http://www.motortrend.com/june99/ford/ford_svt_f.html

I can't wait to see these drag races (ha, ha)!

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Old 02-20-2001, 12:11 AM   #20
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The scoob will kill it off the line due to its traction, top end will go to the truck...
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Old 02-20-2001, 01:16 AM   #21
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Its still a Truck, and a Ford truck none the less!
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Old 02-20-2001, 05:46 AM   #22
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horatio: While the '93 Lightning may not have been as fast as the 454SS, it was generally regarded to be the better vehicle. Back in 1993, Car and Driver did a comparo of the two and rated the Lightning as being better. I should dig up that article tonight and see what exactly they had to say.
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Old 02-20-2001, 08:36 AM   #23
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Lukeduke - Hey.. It's a Ford truck. No more proof needed. Until they turned it into a Jellybean Ford made better trucks, both in quality and in style, in my opinion.
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Old 02-20-2001, 09:11 AM   #24
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Old 02-20-2001, 01:53 PM   #25
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Hate to burst your bubble, Horatio, but a stock 93-95 Lightning can wipe the strip with a 454SS. I should know I have a stock 93 in which I have trounced many a 454SS. As a matter of fact, I think that you will find even the 454SS owners accept this as fact. However, a few minor mods on the 454SS such as intake and exhaust, and it is a different story. Those 454 cubic inches were extremely choked from the factory.

But the 93-95 Lightnings severely outhandled the 454SS. It even managed to beat the 93 Cobra around the road course (Watkins Glen, I believe), both vehicles driven by Ford reps.

And, the 93-95 Lightnings outhandle the 1999-2001 Lightnings considerably.

Also, there are not too many stock 93-95 Ls lefts. Most are low 14-low 12 second trucks.

If you are in a stock WRX, bottom line is watch out for any truck wearing the Lightning badge.

Oh yeah, they were more than a 351W with mono paint job

Click here for more Lightning info. www.nloc.org

Sorry for all the off Subaru content....

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