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Old 09-04-2003, 01:23 PM   #1
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Default why shouldn't I do this? (intake)

Ok, so I'm trying to figure out my intake situation here. Keep in mind, I'm a college student, and very low on money....

I have a 98 2.2 L. I recently got a MAF adapter, and put a big K&N cone filter on. Sounds/runs great, but there is a very loud "tone" much like blowing over a bottle. Aparently this is only on 2.2's, or at least thats as much as I got out of another thread I had about the tone. So aparently, if I get a different intake tube, this will solve the problem....but I don't want to pay near or over $100 for an intake, when I don't really care about horsepower gains, I just want to get rid of the tone.


So.....

I can't imagine it would be a good idea to trust a $25 intake from ebay, but..... could it? If I were to get something like this



put that in, and use my existing K&N filter, will I have problems? If so, what will they be?

My other thought was a GanzFlow, but then I run in to the money problem. I also thought about trying to make my own at one point...don't think I really wanna try that!

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Old 09-04-2003, 05:38 PM   #2
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Doesn't strike me as a particularly BAD idea - my wife's OBS makes the same noise - drives me crazy.
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Old 09-04-2003, 05:48 PM   #3
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$25 is a good price for that intake pipe. Actually that looks like the pipe of the Weapon R intake! The pipe should be ok, but maybe just some fitting problems.

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Old 09-04-2003, 05:50 PM   #4
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Doesn't strike me as a particularly BAD idea - my wife's OBS makes the same noise - drives me crazy.
Yeah, seems to be just the 2.2's that do it.

And as for fitment, couldn't see how there would be a HUGE fitment problem...of course its cheap ebay stuff, but as long as the intake can be hooked up to the throttle body, and its long enough for the filter to be in a good spot, I figure it'll be good enough. I think I might go for it.

Anybody else have any reasons not to? Thanks again for the help!
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Old 09-04-2003, 09:46 PM   #5
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With that pipe, I would expect big low-end loss... as there was a ton of loss when I had a weapon-r on my legacy. I guess it's worth a try at least with that price, though.
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Old 09-04-2003, 10:51 PM   #6
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$25 is a good price for that intake pipe. Actually that looks like the pipe of the Weapon R intake! The pipe should be ok, but maybe just some fitting problems.

Henry
That looks exactly like my weapon r pipe. $25 eh?

Anybody wanna buy a Weapon R painted black for $50?
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Old 09-04-2003, 11:12 PM   #7
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Default Ahh

I remember that intake drone back in 1997 when the Turn3 intake was out. Man it was annoying but with the lack of modifications it seemed so cool.

*Good lord....that was 6 years ago* I'm gettin' old!
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Old 09-04-2003, 11:41 PM   #8
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big low end loss, huh? like how big? am I gonna be unhappy with a slow car?
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Old 09-04-2003, 11:56 PM   #9
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My 2.5 has plenty of low end, but it suffered on the top. The small sacrifice in low end power was well worth being able to pull hard to redline IMO.
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Old 09-05-2003, 09:23 AM   #10
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I remember that intake drone back in 1997 when the Turn3 intake was out. Man it was annoying but with the lack of modifications it seemed so cool.

*Good lord....that was 6 years ago* I'm gettin' old!
Kevin, the turn3 was the shiznit (just like the old TPS mod). Those were the days!

The intake pipe looks like a MY00+ Weapon-R knock off. There is no reason you can't get it to work, might take a little trimming and creative routing of your breather lines but you should have no problems.
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Old 09-05-2003, 02:10 PM   #11
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If you do use that intake, you will need a "T" fitting to bring the valve cover breathers together. The engine has 3 breathers, the WR intake has 2 ports.

You can go to a hardware store & get some ABS fittings, cement, 3 brass barbed fittings w/ 1/2" NPT threads on the other side, 2 rubber couplings, & 4 feet of 3/8" rubber hose....something creative to fix the pipe to the engine....DIY intake.
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Old 09-06-2003, 08:45 PM   #12
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woah woah woah....haha. Thats a lot of stuff! Wanna explain in a little more detail what exactly I'll have to do with all that? Seems to me like I could just use a "T" connector to connect the hoses, or something. I don't know, kind of clueless to these sort of things, you have to excuse me!!! haha
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Old 09-07-2003, 07:08 AM   #13
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woah woah woah....haha. Thats a lot of stuff! Wanna explain in a little more detail what exactly I'll have to do with all that? Seems to me like I could just use a "T" connector to connect the hoses, or something. I don't know, kind of clueless to these sort of things, you have to excuse me!!! haha
To run the WR kit all you need is a T fitting. All that other crap is for a complete DIY intake...except I forgot a filter in the list.

Whatever you do, don't run a filter that is only foam. The stuff can get brittle when it gets old and disentegrate into ingested particuli. Besides, foam flows air ok but it's a lousy filtration media.
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Old 09-07-2003, 08:33 PM   #14
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oh, ok cool. I already have a nice K&N cone, so I'm set there.
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Old 09-18-2003, 05:10 PM   #15
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big low end loss, huh? like how big? am I gonna be unhappy with a slow car?
No one ever said how much low end, does it keep the car comfortibally street drivable
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Old 09-18-2003, 06:02 PM   #16
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The 2.5 has plenty of low end, IMO it's beneficial to sacrifice some in exchange for some power up top. I have an intake and exhaust both geared towards high end power, and I still have 8 times the low range of a comparably modified Civic. IMO it makes it a little MORE street drivable.
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Old 09-21-2003, 07:19 PM   #17
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$25 is definitely a good deal, but if you're worried about eBay and you like the GanzFlow, then opt for the PDM Racing CAI, which is what I've got.

www.pdm-racing.com Go to the site and find "Subaru Corner." In there is their famous $50 CAI, which is basically the GanzFlow design, but a little different, cosmetically, and a lot less expensive.
I got mine a few months ago and like it so far.

You can find a lot of pictures of the CAI if you look up a NASIOC member named Richard L. ... He had several pics of the one in his RS, a couple years ago.

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Old 09-23-2003, 10:01 PM   #18
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i use that intake on my 2.2l L. i got it with this rediculously huge cone filter. Engine screams from 2.5k rpm thru redline. u'll love the sound. there is a little bog at 1500-1500, but we're not a big displacement engine to begin with.

Gota clean my filter tonite Too!
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Old 09-24-2003, 09:09 AM   #19
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And the butt-dyno approves! It feels like a little bit sharper response off the line, and definitely more pull in the mid to upper RPM range. The sound is pretty good until 5k, and then it gets ugly!

I plan to wrap it with some insulation to tone down the howl from 5k, and hopefully keep it a bit cooler.

BTW, this one has 3 vacuum nipples, but the supplied silicone hose is not long enough to replace all 3 factory lines.

I'd give it maybe a cupla horsepower (even on my Auto tranny car). Worth the $43 including shipping!
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Old 09-24-2003, 12:14 PM   #20
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Who did you get your intake from?
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Old 09-24-2003, 12:24 PM   #21
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The whole discussion of losing power down low by installing a J-Tube intake has been settled long ago with dyno plot comparisons of the stock intake and a DIY intake that went so far as to put a cone filter right on the throttle body so there is no so called plenum of ambient air.

What was found was that while there wasn't a whole lot of gain down low it was an increase over stock. The power curve however does change more towards top end where the more significant gains were had.

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Old 09-26-2003, 03:27 PM   #22
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Kami333,
If you are asking me...it was an ebay auction ("hiprospeed" or something to that effect). The picture above looks like what I received, but I only got one section of the blue hose. There are 3 vac. ports on mine...no "T" splicing needed!

Insulation has helped the raucous cacaphony, but more work will need to be done!

MY99 GT,
Do you remember what the improvements were?
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Old 09-26-2003, 09:36 PM   #23
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Thanks, I've seen them around, just not at that price.

<edit> nm, looks like I don't check for a few months and prices have gone down.
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Old 09-27-2003, 08:20 PM   #24
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I really don't remember exact numbers but it wasn't anything about maybe 10-12hp up top.

Search using Bugbomb for the username. He is the one that took his car to the dyno and all.

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Old 09-28-2003, 03:09 PM   #25
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how well did that MAF adapter work?? i was thinking about purchasing it for my ej18, i wanted to still use the stock tubing and as you did using a k&n cone filter on it.
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