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Old 09-08-2003, 11:53 AM   #1
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Default RS guys, how much oil can you fit??

For all RS guys, how much oil can you guys fit in your engine? The manual calls for 4.2 quarts or 4 litres. I am sure engine takes less then that to get perfect FULL mark reading.
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Old 09-08-2003, 12:29 PM   #2
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I've always put 5 quarts in- it doesn't send it over the 'high' mark on me even when hot.


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Old 09-08-2003, 03:43 PM   #3
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Mine is about 3.7 litres to get it to the 'F' Mark. It's a moody dipstick that's for sure.
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Old 09-08-2003, 05:15 PM   #4
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Same here. About 3.7 or 3.8 around Full mark.

I don't know how North Ursalia puts 5 quarts.. WOW...
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Old 09-08-2003, 08:08 PM   #5
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Guys, it's only 1/2 liter more... it's not like I cram 7 or 8 quarts in there . The filter takes up more oil than you think. I nearly guarantee that, for those folks who get dealership oil changes, you get 5 quarts (or 4.7 liters ) put in your car. I work at a dealership, and it gets done all day every day .


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Old 09-09-2003, 12:07 AM   #6
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Interesting. When I put 4 litre jug last time I over filled it big time. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. 3.7 litre makes it right..
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Old 09-11-2003, 03:25 AM   #7
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I usally put in about 4.5qts with filter change and it brings it right to the F.
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Old 09-11-2003, 12:45 PM   #8
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Speaking of this, what's the typical cost of the 7500 mile service? I provided my own oil and it still cost $65!! What gives?

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Old 09-11-2003, 12:54 PM   #9
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Speaking of this, what's the typical cost of the 7500 mile service? I provided my own oil and it still cost $65!! What gives?

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What else did they do besides the oil change?

BTW, did you have it serviced at Roberts?

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Old 09-11-2003, 01:55 PM   #10
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Dave,

I did have it serviced at Roberts since that's where I bought the car and it's right up the street. They said the 7500 mile service includes rotating the tires, checking brakes, suspension and steering. I provided my own Mobile 1.

Have you had your car serviced there?

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Old 09-11-2003, 07:22 PM   #11
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Pre-filling the filter, 4.75 quarts gets it up to the full mark after running it for a few minutes.
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Old 09-11-2003, 09:52 PM   #12
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4.5 quarts normally. I always precharge the filter too
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Old 09-12-2003, 12:59 PM   #13
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I did have it serviced at Roberts since that's where I bought the car and it's right up the street. They said the 7500 mile service includes rotating the tires, checking brakes, suspension and steering. I provided my own Mobile 1.

Have you had your car serviced there?

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They probably spent 45 minutes or so to perform the work and I think their labor rate is around $75/hour, so $65 is probably fair. I think they charge $20 or $25 for the tire rotation and $27 for an oil change. They probably only gave you $5 credit for the oil.

I usually do all the maintenance myself, but when I need warranty work or state inspection, I take my car to Roberts even though I didn't buy it there. I had it in the end of July for state inspection and a transmission (parking rod) recall.

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Old 09-12-2003, 03:23 PM   #14
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Then there's the discrepancy about how often to change the oil:

Robert's says I should get it done in 4,000 miles or 3 months.

MySubaru.com says every 3,750 or 4 months.

The owner's manual says every 7,500 from here on out.

What I am I suppose to follow???

And yes, Robert's Labor Rate is $72/hr.

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Old 09-12-2003, 06:03 PM   #15
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Then there's the discrepancy about how often to change the oil:

Robert's says I should get it done in 4,000 miles or 3 months.

MySubaru.com says every 3,750 or 4 months.

The owner's manual says every 7,500 from here on out.

What I am I suppose to follow???

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3,750 is for severe duty driving - the maintenance manual lists examples.

7,500 is for "normal" duty driving.

Since you're using Mobil 1, you can probably get away with 7,500 between changes. Basically, follow what you're comfortable with.

Me personally, I started using M1 at 7,500 in my '03 Outback H-4. Changed it at 15,000 and plan to change it next at 22,500. This works out to about 5 months between changes.

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Old 09-12-2003, 07:10 PM   #16
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Now 1 million dollar question!!

Why all of use have different oil capacity???
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Old 09-12-2003, 08:40 PM   #17
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Dave,

As you could probably attest to, the only stipulation in the manual that might apply is the short trips. I only drive 8 miles to work but my engine always gets up to proper temperature for tha majority of that trip. Since Roberts recommends 7500, I'm afraid they'd void my warranty should something happen since I didn't follow their recommended schedule. I guess I could try doing the in-between oil&filter only service myself.

Also, I gave them the 6-quart case of Mobile 1, told them to leave what was left in the trunk, and got exactly one full, unopened quart back.


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Old 09-13-2003, 10:13 PM   #18
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4.75qts in my 2000 RS
5.00qts in my 1998 RS

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Old 09-24-2003, 01:29 AM   #19
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I'm at about 6 1/2 quarts. I'm also using an oversized by pass filter and a remote filter.
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Old 09-25-2003, 01:47 PM   #20
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I was 4.5-5.0 qts in my 2.5RS. I changed my il every 4000-5000 miles with Pennzoil Synthetic 5W30 with mostly highway driving.

FWIW, the 2.5RS was the easiest car to change the oil in I've ever owned. No lifting of the car required, just a 17mm wrench or socket, and the oil filter is easy to get at. It's about $25.00/change with good oil.
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Old 09-28-2003, 01:34 PM   #21
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Including filling the filter I use 4.5 qts per change.

With regard to drain intervals I have my oil (I use Mobil 1 5w-30) tested by Blackstone Labs. My most recent tests show that I can safely go about 5500 miles before changing my oil. I use the OEM filter, btw. Another thing to note is that I use the fumoto valve with just the included gasket. This leaves a little bit of old oil in the pan due to the valve protruding into the pan a hair. If I threw in another washer or two more would drain out and I'm sure the oil analysis would be a tiny bit nicer (my drain interval could be a bit longer).

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Old 09-28-2003, 03:36 PM   #22
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That's why I am going to make a cut in my fumoto valve. That should make a path for all oil to drain.
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