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Old 09-08-2003, 10:33 PM   #1
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Default GC guys what size front sway bar are you running.

Im trying to decide if I should go with the 22mm front whiteline sway bar or the 20mm

stock is 19, so I dont really see the point of going up 1mm.

but I dont want to go to stiff...

I have a 20-24mm rear bar set@20 right now....
perrin springs on stock struts for now (agx's) going in soon
HD rear mounting kit and HD front and rear enlinks also going in.

Im usually pretty good with setting up suspensions, but im just undecided, I dont want to induce understeer...I think the larger bar will do that.., I like oversteer

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Old 09-09-2003, 01:03 AM   #2
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I have been wondering this exact same question.
I have a 20mm rear bar.
What size would complete my suspension journey?
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Old 09-09-2003, 01:03 AM   #3
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I haven't bothered changing mine. I like oversteer also. I did install the front drop link inserts though.

Setup:
KYB Agx
Ver 5 springs
20mm rear sway bar (in need of HD mounts)
solid rear end links
front and rear strut braces
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Old 09-09-2003, 05:12 AM   #4
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I still have the stock front. With KYB AGX's, 20mm rear bar, SPT springs, and Kartboy endlinks. Seems to work well the way it is. I'd change the front endlinks before the bar I think it would help the car turn in faster. Once you get the AGX's you won't even be thinking about the front swaybar.
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Old 09-09-2003, 05:20 AM   #5
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I was in your dilemma in July when I was deciding on 22mm or 21 mm for front swaybar to combo with 21mm adj rear.
My final decision is going for 22mm front because if I have 21mm RSB, I can play around with under/neutral/over steer setting with 22mm front. But if I get 21mm front, there is ony neutral or oversteer setting to play around.

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Old 09-09-2003, 07:08 AM   #6
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Stock front, 20mm rear for me. I say instead of getting a larger front swaybar, get some eurathane swaybar bushings and maybe some front endlinks... It wont increase the understeer much but will make the steering more crisp and responsive.
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Old 09-09-2003, 08:58 AM   #7
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What Kostamojen said.

I run the stock 19mm front bar with Whiteline Poly bushings and Whiteline End Links. In the rear, I've got an SPO bar set at 21mm with poly bushings and Whiteline end links. I think it's a great setup.
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Old 09-09-2003, 11:55 AM   #8
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If you want to set your rear bar at 24mm, get the 22mm front. That's what I have now for my autox setup, along with STi version 5 RA springs and AGXes (set at 3 front/ 6 rear). Great rotation on grippy concrete, haven't tried it out on asphalt yet, but it should be even more tail-happy there. When the rear bar is set to 22mm, the car is perfectly neutral.

I was using a 25mm Addco front bar (with the rear set at 24), but when we have nice, big sweepers I'd have to play with the throttle just a little to keep it from pushing. On the tighter stuff, though, the 25mm makes the car VERY responsive to steering inputs, and doesn't show any understeer. So for smaller, tighter courses I may end up putting it back on (if I know ahead that's how the course is going to be). I had this setup (the 25mm front along with the other stuff) on the car when I won FTPAX at the NC autox championship event #2 a couple of months ago, so don't let anybody tell you that it's "not a good autox setup."

And just to let you know, at one time I was using the 25mm front bar with a 20mm rear bar off a WRX. Had to be a little jerkier in slaloms and offsets, and brake waaaayyy into corners, but it wasn't noticeably slower against the clock. Just had to drive the car a little different to go fast. Got 2nd in PAX with that setup at the same site referred to above.

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Old 09-09-2003, 02:01 PM   #9
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i have a 20 front and 20 rear on my gc8 (agx-eibach) at the moment ... this was fine for auto-xing but was pushing pretty bad at the hill climb

i am not sold on the larger front/huge rear setup i have a 22 front 22 rear on my gda it is a great setup for sweepers but for tight stuff it can be too much

iirc whiteline recomends changing the sway bar to car mount when you go over 22 .. i agree ..it is a very soft piece of metal
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Old 09-09-2003, 07:27 PM   #10
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Thanks guys, im defintly doing the HD enlinks front and rear, and HD mounts.

on my 2000 RS, I ran a 22mm rear sway, with whiteline front and rear endlinks, reat strut tower bar and a P1 Suspension/sti top mounts.

Custom alignment, to increase turn in, but there was still noticable understeer.

All with the stock front sway bar.

Im taking a different route with my 98 RS, cause I want it LOW (wich it is ).

I guess for now ill see how it does with the stock sway bar, ill upgradge everything else.

Jay
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