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Old 09-15-2003, 07:32 PM   #1
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Just wondering...do I really need to remove the front passenger wheel to access the front O2 sensor. The reason that I am asking is because If I don't have to remove the wheel...I was just going to drive the car up on Rhino Ramps to do the install. Has anyone done it without removing the wheel?
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Old 09-15-2003, 07:49 PM   #2
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I think I removed the wheel when I did my uppipe. What you want to do is turn the wheel all the way to the right so you have as much access to the wheel well as possible. Can you crank the wheel when it's on Rhino Ramps?
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Old 09-15-2003, 07:50 PM   #3
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Assisted in countless uppipe installations, here's the easiest way...
Drive up on your Rhino ramps and then put a jack under the jack point on the passengers side and put the car on a jack stand. Make sure you break loose the lugs while it's still on the ramps. when you're done, reverse the process. Make sure you have the offset O2 wrench too, the straight one will not work.
Best of luck, don't forget to replace all the gaskets you take off.
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Old 09-15-2003, 07:59 PM   #4
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Assisted in countless uppipe installations, here's the easiest way...
Drive up on your Rhino ramps and then put a jack under the jack point on the passengers side and put the car on a jack stand. Make sure you break loose the lugs while it's still on the ramps. when you're done, reverse the process. Make sure you have the offset O2 wrench too, the straight one will not work.
Best of luck, don't forget to replace all the gaskets you take off.
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Old 09-16-2003, 01:12 AM   #5
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Once I have it up on the ramps how could I get a jack underneath the passenger side jack point because the ramp is in the way unless there is another jack point other than the one it shows in the manual.

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Assisted in countless uppipe installations, here's the easiest way...
Drive up on your Rhino ramps and then put a jack under the jack point on the passengers side and put the car on a jack stand. Make sure you break loose the lugs while it's still on the ramps. when you're done, reverse the process. Make sure you have the offset O2 wrench too, the straight one will not work.
Best of luck, don't forget to replace all the gaskets you take off.
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Old 09-16-2003, 01:35 AM   #6
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Just put it on jack stands with the wheel(s) removed. I think it's a 100% times better/easier. You'll need to take off the fender lining anyways, and it's easier without the wheel there.
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Old 09-16-2003, 01:42 AM   #7
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there is a jack point in the middle, front of the car. it is a 4X6, black plate of metal. hmmm... maybe i can get pics tomarrow if you need one.
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Old 09-16-2003, 01:43 AM   #8
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Put it on jackstands if you have them.
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Old 09-16-2003, 02:02 AM   #9
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I did it on ramps. Did not remove the wheel. Had no problem accessing the O2 sensor through the little cut-out without removing the wheel or the wheel well liner. Didn't have to turn the wheel at all either, was fine working from below.

I used the Perrin instructions:

http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/sho...=&threadid=194
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Old 09-16-2003, 02:07 AM   #10
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definatly get the offset o2 sensor socket. i tried a straight one first. no go. had to take the girlfreind's car to the parts store.

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Old 09-16-2003, 08:09 AM   #11
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if you get the car high enough, you can get to it from the bottom and inside the wheel. you do not have to take it off. also, the higher you can get the car the better because you need room to work around under there. the O2 removal tool is key, but if you have to, you can hack the heat shiled with a dremil tool and remove the shield, then the manifold and never mess with the O2. as a suggestion, hack the heat shield anyway so the next time you don't have to mess with the O2.

andif you are doing this on a sedan...be prepaird...the O2 socket is a very tight fit. you might be better off with buying a crows foot wrench of some kind that will fit the sensor.

and use lots of liquid wrench...it is your friend.
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Old 09-17-2003, 03:21 AM   #12
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OK...all done. It wasn't that bad and all I used was ramps. One question. I didn't install that heat shield that was connected to the stock uppipe because I couldn't find a place for it to go.

Also...It might be just because it is really late, but if you are facing the front of the car...the left intercooler mount. Is there an extra hole there to the left of the mount? I just can't remember if there was anything there...if there was...I have nothing to put there.

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OK...all done. It wasn't that bad and all I used was ramps. One question. I didn't install that heat shield that was connected to the stock uppipe because I couldn't find a place for it to go.

Also...It might be just because it is really late, but if you are facing the front of the car...the left intercooler mount. Is there an extra hole there to the left of the mount? I just can't remember if there was anything there...if there was...I have nothing to put there.

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Been a long time, but I think it is a heat shield for the turbo.
I could be wrong though.
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Old 09-17-2003, 06:57 AM   #14
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Talking about this hole? If so, it was blank from the factory (or at least mine was )



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OK...all done. It wasn't that bad and all I used was ramps. One question. I didn't install that heat shield that was connected to the stock uppipe because I couldn't find a place for it to go.

Also...It might be just because it is really late, but if you are facing the front of the car...the left intercooler mount. Is there an extra hole there to the left of the mount? I just can't remember if there was anything there...if there was...I have nothing to put there.

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That extra hole is for a larger intercooler. (ie...Sti Intercooler, etc)
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Old 09-17-2003, 10:45 AM   #16
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Thanks for the pic. That solves one problem, now for this stupid little heat shield that was bolted to the stock uppipe with 2 10mm screws. Anyone?

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Talking about this hole? If so, it was blank from the factory (or at least mine was )



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Old 09-17-2003, 11:19 AM   #17
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I have no more shield on my uppipe.
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Old 09-17-2003, 11:27 AM   #18
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maybe you could use the ramp on just the left side and jack up the right side?
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Old 09-17-2003, 11:31 AM   #19
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I didnt put back the turbo heat sheild or the heatshield on the passenger exhaust manifold. I haven't burned through anything yet and the car runs like a champ Anyone think I'm going to get into any big trouble?
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