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Old 02-14-2001, 08:19 AM   #1
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Question Closed sunroof VERY noisy. Post-crash problems?

Hey all. Well I've done most of my posting on NESIC lately, mostly because I haven't had much time to surf the board, now that I've no job and have to deal with the 56k modem at home and all... (I had a cable hookup, but it's a long story.)

I wanted to ask this here because General gets the most traffic. Anyway, as some may recall, on Dec. 14 I smacked up my car. Slid on ice on my street, she fishtailed and went nose-first into a ditch. Nearly six weeks and about $9,400 later, I got it back.
The body shop did a tremendous job on matching body panels and all (had to replace front bumper, right front fender, all lights, dashboard, both airbags, airbag computer(s), head gasket case cover (it was cracked), lower control arm... and other things). It looks great, drives like a charm, and sounds fine.

Two, maybe three things have cropped up, though.

1. Even though I don't have the money for it, I sprung for a set of Nokain Hakkapeliitta 1 winter tires on 15" Legacy steel wheels. When they went to put the right front tire on, they noticed it rubbed.
Not by much, just a TINY bit. But it shouldn't have at all, with the 195/65-15 tire. Other RS folks put those on, with no problem. It rubbed when turning to the left, so the front inside rubbed on a plastic-covered metal piece under the car (not sure what it was). They suggested either trying to bend the metal piece out of the way, or going with a 185 width instead.
I took the latter. I'll have the body shop check to see what the gap difference may be, but I don't think they'll notice anything.

Anyone have any ideas???

2. My sunroof! This concerns me the most, currently. I went to Albany, NY last Saturday to visit my best friend. It's about a 3.5 hour drive from Manchester, 4 hours from Dover, which is where I was on Sat. Anyway.... it was windy as HELL, however... I get a LOT of wind noise through my *CLOSED* sunroof. When I picked the car up from the bodyshop, they said they'd forgotten to check out the roof for troubles.
He tried opening and closing it. It opened fine, but got stuck when trying to close the final portion (after you have to press the button the second time, and the lip drops to the closed position). He pushed on it gently downward, and it closed. After that, it seemed to work fine. I thought maybe a rail was busted, but it worked, so thought nothing of it.

Now though, I'm a bit worried. I don't remember it making any noise before when closed, or if it did, not that much. Again.... any ideas or tips???

3. This probably means nothing, but yesterday I washed the car at a touch-free, hose-it-yerself place, and I had some water droplets inside, when done. They were on the right, so I thought it may've come through the right window. I noticed the gap between the rear of the window and the rubber seal on the door frame was a bit larger than the one on the left side. Hmm...
I hit the car on the right, so wouldn't it have pushed BACK? Unless they had to pull the frame to straighten it, could they have gone just a hair too far??

See I honestly don't know, which is why I ask. Then again, it was a high-pressure hose, and they were just a few drops, so I'm not going to worry. I opened and closed the door again, and the gap seemed to shrink a bit, so maybe it's just the way the window happened to sit on the rubber thing.


Assuming #3 is just me being paranoid I'd like to see what everyone thinks of the other two. I need some technical tips here!

Thanks!
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Old 02-14-2001, 08:31 AM   #2
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Sounds to me like your car should have been totaled. Frame damage is a BIG hit on the value of the car and it sounds like your car is still a little bit tweaked.
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Old 02-14-2001, 08:35 AM   #3
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Yeah but see that's the thing, the body shop said that no way should it be totalled. That combined with the fact that the insurance company never even suggested totalling it (and that's the FIRST thing they usually try to do... trust me, I've been there before with my old Civic), and I didn't even consider it. It was a slow crash that totalled the bumper, and bent the right-front fender. One of the I-beams under the hood was crimped minorly, but the shop replaced everything.

What I'm thinkin' is that the airbags forced the sunroof rails outta whack. I've asked around, and I guess that's a common occurrence.

Judging by the amount of money it took for repairs, yeah, I'd have thought it totalled too. But if you actually SAW the damage, you'd disagree.

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Old 02-14-2001, 03:22 PM   #4
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Anyone else?

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Old 02-14-2001, 04:38 PM   #5
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The windowseals get quite hard in cold weather and don't sit very tight. Crappy design, but a frameless window is tough to seal. The sunroof squeaks and rattles like crazy when cold, and that without crash.
Hey the money went into the drivetrain, not the buildquality. Get an A4 instead.
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Old 02-14-2001, 05:48 PM   #6
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Siper, before you panic, try to go over all the rubber seals on the car with some "Armor All" type cleaner/protectant. Since the car sat for a long time in the dry bodyshop (plus a hot paint booth), I bet the seals could use a bit of attention. Keep an eye on the car for leaks still. If they had to adjust the right door (can't remember if you got a new right front fender or not), it might be off. I would do the weather striping stuff first (I use STP Sun of A Gun, or Mothers products). If you still have leaks, I would take the car back. I really doubt the roof being damaged from a "head on" shot with a ditch at the slow speed you were going, but you never can tell. My car is very loud in the cold weather too. Just turn up the stereo.

Maybe we can meet up and do a comparison too. I am sure some of it is just "in your head", but you never do know. Another opinion of a fellow owner may help.

Pm me if you have any other questions.

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Old 02-15-2001, 05:33 AM   #7
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Paul,

Hey man! Well like I said, I'm not sweating over the doors thing, it's the sunroof that's bugging me. Cold weather creaks I've considered ... except that it was December when I crashed it, and I don't recall the roof making any noise even then. So...

WRC666,

Tell ya what, if I had the cash for an A4, or had wanted one, I'd have bought one. Don't be rude, man... I mean, my car had a tragedy happen and all I want is to be sure everything was taken care of.

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Old 02-16-2001, 09:02 AM   #8
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state farm told me my car was classified as totalled when I was rear ended at 10MPH and had the bumper replaced. No frame damage, barely any damage to the bumper. Bastards. Oh well, they gave me a decent amount of money for xrays and stuff plus some left over that I bought new tires with.

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