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Old 02-15-2001, 02:45 PM   #1
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Old 02-15-2001, 02:46 PM   #2
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Someone earlier said that it was majority SUV's. And that it had nothing to do with evo's.
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Old 02-15-2001, 02:47 PM   #3
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that's what I read, mainly SUV's.
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Old 02-15-2001, 02:55 PM   #4
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A Transport Ministry official said the company reported defects in 11 car and truck models sold in Japan, mostly faulty ball joints in its Galant sedan and defective airbags in mini versions of its Pajero sport-utility vehicle.

The recalls in the United States involved four models, including the Galant, a company spokesman said.
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Old 02-15-2001, 03:16 PM   #5
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yeah, just the fact that they hid all that stuff is stupid. they put your life at a greater risk.

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Old 02-15-2001, 03:30 PM   #6
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That makes me mad that they deseved the general public and by doing so put everyone at risk. Not just the Mistubishi owners.

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Old 02-15-2001, 04:30 PM   #7
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Maybe their attempt to grow rapidly has hampered their ability to construct a driveable car. It seems as if the quality of their cars has gone down in rythm with the rise in advertising.

This is what makes me so nervous about all of the manufacturrers making their own souped up versions of production cars. Some feel that Fords attempt in making a valid competiotor to the civic has fallen short, regardless of aftermarket furvor at the time of its arrival.

Maybe there is a trend here...i mean what are we supposed to expect from the MPS or the SVT focus or the RX-8 for that matter (which in my opinion looks more like a suppository than an automobile?
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Old 02-15-2001, 05:28 PM   #8
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It's not only Mitsubishi that was hiding the recalls, Subaru had done the same thing (hide the recalls) some 5 years ago and penalized by the public. Subaru does not have a clean history either.
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Old 02-15-2001, 05:31 PM   #9
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most auto makers have some blemish on there record...its a matter of being able to combat the problem that makes the comsumer so angry.

If its an easy fix then there isnt much to worry about, simple parts recalls are common, and quite easy to fix....of course it all depends on the channels used to reveal these problems that really matters
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Old 02-15-2001, 05:40 PM   #10
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Actually when this first started surfacing, I remember hearing that it was mostly cars in Japan that were effected, and the EVO was one of them. Of course there is so much different information flying around that I don't know what to believe. I personally am not a fan of Mitsubishi and the reliability issues they've had on a lot of their vehicles. So I wouldn't buy an EVO, but thats just me.
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Old 02-15-2001, 07:10 PM   #11
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HA HA HA! Funniest thing I've heard! They're going to talk with CHRYSLER about fixing their quality control problem??? Man... somewhere I posted everything in my Jeep that has been fixed/replaced.
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Sounds like the auto industry's version of the blind leading the blind.
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Old 02-16-2001, 03:58 AM   #12
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The Evo was not effected. The Galant's were however. All fines and recalls have since been completed. If you won't buy a car made by a company because of a recall then I guess you're becoming Amish and going back to a horse drawn buggy.
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Old 02-16-2001, 04:20 AM   #13
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Not solely because of the recall. There's that, and then all the problems I've heard with DSM's. Mitsubishi isn't exactly known for building reliable cars. I figure why risk it, I wouldn't buy one.
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Old 02-16-2001, 04:31 AM   #14
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I wouldn't get an EVO cuz I'm just too loyal to Subaru. There's no other car out there in the world that I'd rather have than an Impreza.
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Old 02-16-2001, 05:16 AM   #15
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The DSM trannies were weak but then again anytime you increase the cars power double that of stock then its bound to come apart at some point. Just ask the turbo RS owners who are going to hardened gears. As far as another car over the Impreza, how about the Delfino Feroce? Its kind of a Subaru. Only much faster 0-60mph. It does a 0-60mph in 3.8 seconds. Still AWD, 2dr, and has a 280hp STI motor.
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Old 02-16-2001, 09:07 AM   #16
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THe point of my post was not to finger any one model or country that had problems. But to show the Mitsu is willing to go to these lengths to hide a known inadequacy.

I don't care if it was just their trucks or just in Japan. It scared me enough that these decisions were voluntarily made that I'd never buy a Mitsu product.

When I worked for Honda R&D, we had to cross-train on the production floor. One of the things we learn was QA and the state of many plants in the world. Near the bottom was the Corvette plant in Ky. Below that was the Mitsu/DSM plant in Illinois.

I drive crazy enough, I don't need a car failing on me in the middle of a lapping session.

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Old 02-16-2001, 09:15 AM   #17
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Mitsu's rep in the past was to the point where my mother wouldn't even let me LOOK at a Mitsubishi product. I loved the previous gen Eclipse, and I wanted one badly. No dice, my mom wouldn't even take me to look at one, mentioning low reliability, and high crash fatality rates. My friends Eclipse GT is a POS and is falling apart. He's going to eventually trade it in for a WRX.
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Old 02-16-2001, 01:25 PM   #18
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Ford didn't hide it from the US gov. Mostly because the gov didn't know it was a problem. So since nobody asked they didn't tell anyone. Remember the tire thing started in Columbia more then two years ago. Also the US companies have done their own denying in the past. Currently under Japanese investigation is Nissan and Honda. So add these to you're list as well. One of the cars known for reliability in the US (Honda) is in the same boat. The problems didn't include the Evo, nobody I have ever talked to over here has had any relaibility problems with their cars and they just kick ass. So yah I'm still going to buy one. Also if you ask people here they would tell you that it Subaru with a tranny problem.
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Old 02-16-2001, 02:19 PM   #19
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I'd never buy a Ford either. For several reasons. First there's the whole putting a price on a human life thing back in the day with the Pinto. Then the fact that I hate SUV's and they're building the biggest ones. Also, IMHO all the cars they sell in the US are crap. I'd actually consider buying a Focus if they offered an AWD turbo Cosworth, but then again that was designed by the Europeans.
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Old 02-16-2001, 05:43 PM   #20
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EVO is included in the recall list.. go to the japanese mitsubishi website and u will see that they have a recall of the EVO5, 6 regarding the reprograming of ECU of AYC equipped EVOs.

Yes.. subaru has been involved in such as case before.. i believe in 1997. But it was not as highly publicized as this one because the number of cars involved is not anywhere close to the #s of the Mitsubishi scandal
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Old 02-16-2001, 11:13 PM   #21
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At the time, Mitsubishi also admitted it had been concealing consumer complaints and defective cars in Japan for the past 20 years.

Oooookaaaay! If that's the case, over time that sort of attitude develops into a corporate culture that is very difficult to change after 20years of doing it.

Thank you very much, I'll stick with Subaru.
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Old 02-17-2001, 12:12 AM   #22
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At least it's not like Ford...

4 recals on ONE vehicle in it's first 3 months.....

Gotta love the big 3 quality!
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Umm... I'm not sure, but from what I remember, the Ford recalls were pretty petty not including the big tire theasco. Things like trim peices that could fall off, or wipers not working.

Hell, at lease Ford ISSUED the Recall and didn't hide it from the US Gov't. Says something about the integrity of Japanese car companys.
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