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Old 10-13-2000, 08:12 PM   #1
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I just got done installing my 18mm rear antisway bar. I was wondering how long it took everyone to install it. It took me 2.5 hours. I had to take of my rear wheels to get to the fasteners that hold the bushings on and installing the new bushings were almost impossable, I had to use vise grips to clamp the bushing mount so I could get the fastener started. Any way the sway bar was worth all of the trouble.
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Old 10-13-2000, 10:14 PM   #2
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Here's my experience: JC Sports 18 mm Rear Sway Bar Review

Did you do your install alone? I finally had to go get the wife to help hold a pair of vice-grips and a flashlight. It was somewhat of a PITA, but not really difficult (if that makes sense). No wheel pulling involved. Just a little colorful language.

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Old 10-14-2000, 12:06 AM   #3
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Hmmm... Imprezer/someone: the mods page should be updated with a big 'keep your car on the ground/ramps' warning, and maybe some tricks on threading the passenger side bolt.

I ended up threading the bolt by hand. I tried having a friend help, tried using vice grips, tried using just the socket + extension, but the 'by hand' method worked the best with the weird angle--with the clamp actually somewhat loose.

Total time? Maybe an hour, and this is the first thing I've ever done on a car by myself. But they key was first reading the experience everyone on the club has had installing their sway bars. Oh, and ramps help.

An update on the tools required, the mods page isn't quite sure:
Ratchet wrench w/14mm and 12mm sockets. 3" extension. 14mm wrench.

I just re-read your message, did you have an extension? That was the key to working with the bushing bolts. Also, I think Sean has a trick with moving the gas stuff out of the way, maybe that should be linked to the mods page.


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Old 10-14-2000, 05:10 AM   #4
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Mine was about two hours, I'd jacked it up as well (at Fishguy's place). I put a post in Technical last week... it should be on page two or three right now.

This was a Whiteline 18-22mm.

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Old 10-14-2000, 06:34 AM   #5
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i jacked mine up only on one side. it took me about 30-45 minutes.
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Old 10-14-2000, 08:08 AM   #6
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Havent done mine, but have done 2 others.

I left both on the ground and took 20-30mins/each.

I read somewhere you need to leave it on the ground so that the sway bar doesn't get loaded up when you lower the car again.

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Old 10-14-2000, 08:10 AM   #7
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I loosened and re-tightened the bolts on mine, yesterday... Hopefully that'll fix the load issue...

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Old 10-14-2000, 08:41 AM   #8
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I got the Cusco 20mm bar and the whiteline endlinks. I left my car on the ground the whole time. The only hard part about this is working the old bar out and the new one in, you have to spin it around and just work with it. If you count just the time putting the new bar in, take out goofing off and horseplay with my friend, it took me ten to fifteen minutes to install the new one. By the way, this was done at 10:30pm in the garage with very little light. I would highly recommend the endlinks and the 20mm bar.

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Old 10-15-2000, 01:47 PM   #9
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Has anyone upgraded from and 18mm, and still have the old bushings? I got one, but i don't have the bushings to fit it...

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Old 10-15-2000, 04:55 PM   #10
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Took me like 40 minutes. Most of that was because I had a hard time snaking the new bar in under the muffler. I left all 4 wheels on the ground. I thought about jacking it, but turned out I didn't need to. I also installed it by myself. I don't understand why you'd need 2 people to do it. I had no problem getting it in other than the muffler getting in the way. BTW - Whiteline 18-22.
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Old 10-15-2000, 08:12 PM   #11
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30 minutes with me and a friend.
It helps to have two people
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Old 10-15-2000, 08:15 PM   #12
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Wow, that looks so straight forward I'd be tempted to do it myself !

Do you need to replace those plastic links ?
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Old 10-15-2000, 08:19 PM   #13
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I'm surprised that no one else has mentioned this, I used a scissor jack under the clamps to get the bolts started. Total time start to finish, less than 30 mins.
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Old 10-15-2000, 08:54 PM   #14
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Took me about 3 hours (I stripped a bolt). I started out with all four wheels on the ground but when my girlfriends dad came to help we put the rear up on ramps. That gave us a lot more room to work with. I also installed new rear endlinks so that added about a half hour or so to the job.
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Old 10-15-2000, 09:09 PM   #15
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RickD and I had the same idea with the jack. Once I used that bad boy to help compress the bushing/clamp, attaching those was a snap. The jack trick only works if all 4 wheels are on the ground because that was pretty much maxing out the scissor jack's lifting height.
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Old 10-16-2000, 12:02 AM   #16
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Someone told me I should have jacked up the back of my car and not one side. This may have made the install a bit harder. Next time I know better
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Old 10-16-2000, 12:07 AM   #17
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HA! You guys are all lucky! I just got all the pieces to mount my swaybar onto my vintage 93 wagon. Of course it came with no mounts or anything, so I am going to really have to do a lot of work to get that puppy on there!
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Old 10-16-2000, 12:12 AM   #18
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I did mine with all 4 wheels on the ground. There's plenty of clearance in the rear for crawling around under the car. Also, if the car's flat, there's no torque on the bar (that's what it's for, right - to apply torque when the car is tilted).

If you don't count being stupid for 1/2 hour trying to get the bolts started on the clamps over the bushing, mine probaby only took 20 min to 1/2 hr at a leasurely pace.

Oh, and one note regarding oversteer/understeer. Now that I have a little practice, it is completely predictable and controllable with the throttle. Give it a little gas when it is at the limit in a turn and it will understeer. Let up a little and the tail swings out nicely. I truely think an 18 mm rear sway bar with an otherwise stock suspension is perfect on this car.

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Old 10-16-2000, 12:40 AM   #19
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I put on my 20mm bar with all four wheels on the ground. My car is parked on the street...a very busy one...so me wriggling around under there provided entertainment for people stopped at the light down the street from me.

Visegrips on that passenger side bushing mount at the key thing...so you can get the screw started.

The shop i go to for oil changes says they charge two hours labor to do this bar...so now that makes sense

Mike
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Old 10-17-2000, 03:56 PM   #20
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1/2 hour
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dirt in my eyes
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Old 10-18-2000, 01:08 PM   #21
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The trick to that darn passenger side sway bar bushing holder is to loosen the gasoline return box bolt right next to the bushing holder. Once you move that you have plenty of room to get a ratchet on that bolt. Also dont attach it to the end links right away. Start the driver side bushing holder, do not tighten yet, but get it started, then do the passenger side one. Its much easier now. Just get that one started so that the sway bar can still move. Then just bolt up the end links and tighten the rest.. very easy..

I did this last night on my back in the street.. so its a peice of cake.

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Old 10-19-2000, 12:35 AM   #22
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Two hours, two people, full kit with swaybar, endlinks and new mounts/bushings. Jacked the car up from the chassis and lowered the arm down on a jackstand to keep the suspension level (just as good as on the ground).



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Old 10-19-2000, 12:39 AM   #23
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uhh... 3 people, 20mins, jsut the swaybar and the new bushings.
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Old 10-19-2000, 12:58 AM   #24
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You guys got it easy. I have to replace the lateral links on mine first. I'll tell you how long it takes me this weekend.
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Old 10-19-2000, 08:07 AM   #25
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I did it easily by myself in about one hour total work time. Backing the car onto ramps gives lots of working room. I did round one of the endlink nuts because I used a ratchet instead of a closed end wrench; they were very tight. Found a replacement nut at NAPA (dealer doesn't carry it).
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