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Old 09-22-2003, 09:19 PM   #1
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Hi All,

Thanks to Etam for taping the events this weekend. Here are a couple of links to my Legacy in the Twin Lakes Motorsports Club Autocross.

The layout was sooo fun, since our regional chapionships are finished, it was quite a hoot goint out there just for fun, and no points.

Anyways, here's the vids... Also special thanks to ChrisM for supplying bandwidth and hosting space.

My Legacy 2.5T
http://chris82.nexxpowered.ca/etam/l...25turbo.00.avi
http://chris82.nexxpowered.ca/etam/l...5turbo1.00.avi
http://chris82.nexxpowered.ca/etam/l...5turbo2.00.avi
http://chris82.nexxpowered.ca/etam/l...5turbo3.00.avi

98 Legacy GT
http://chris82.nexxpowered.ca/etam/gold_gt2.00.avi
http://chris82.nexxpowered.ca/etam/gt_silver.00.avi
http://chris82.nexxpowered.ca/etam/gt_silver2.00.avi
http://chris82.nexxpowered.ca/etam/gt_silver1.00.avi

Nuwan's 92 Legacy
http://chris82.nexxpowered.ca/etam/bc_turbo.00.avi
http://chris82.nexxpowered.ca/etam/bc_turbo1.00.avi

Lots more videos available from the SPDA web site: http://www.wiredmotorsports.com/foru...M=False&S=True

http://www.spda-online.com

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Old 09-22-2003, 10:32 PM   #2
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i dont have your codec, what program do you use to capture these?
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Old 09-22-2003, 10:35 PM   #3
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Divx 5.1

Get them directly from Divx.com

Here's the download link to the Divx site: http://download.divx.com/divx/DivX51Bundle.exe

Enjoy... Hope this helps.
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Old 09-22-2003, 10:39 PM   #4
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WinAmp seems to work....

Nice vids, Joe. What suspension/tire setup are you running there?
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Old 09-22-2003, 10:41 PM   #5
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Good videos!

Great host! 450k per second downloads.

Nuwan: Why atmospheric venting BOV?
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Old 09-22-2003, 10:41 PM   #6
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My setup is:

Tein CS with Cusco Camber plates set at -3 (for racing)
Whiteline ALK
Kumho V700 225-50-16
Whiteline 24mm rear swaybar
5Kg Springs in the front
7Kg springs in the rear

Not too harsh for daily street driving too.
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Old 09-22-2003, 11:20 PM   #7
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OMG, you car is so cool. ah the sound of venting. kinda makes me want to put a new bov on my car.
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Old 09-23-2003, 12:37 AM   #8
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thats awesome Joe! looking sweet as usual, and sounds great thats crazy!

keep up the good work, and dont be a stranger around here

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Old 09-23-2003, 03:06 AM   #9
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I can hear it, but not see it.

And Winamp 3 doesnt want to play AVI files...
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Old 09-23-2003, 07:32 AM   #10
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Quote:
Originally posted by BAC5.2
I can hear it, but not see it.

And Winamp 3 doesnt want to play AVI files...
Download the Codecs in the link above (a few posts up) and you'll be able to play it.

Subiekid,

It was a whooooooooole lot of fun.
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Old 09-23-2003, 02:04 PM   #11
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Default Forgive my ignorance...

...But what is "venting?" I assume it's what makes that cool rally-car shifting sound...but what is it exactly? I heard it on a WRX near my house once, and wondered what the deal was.

Someone please enlighten me...
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Old 09-23-2003, 02:24 PM   #12
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...But what is "venting?" I assume it's what makes that cool rally-car shifting sound...but what is it exactly? I heard it on a WRX near my house once, and wondered what the deal was.

Someone please enlighten me...
It's a turbo charger... The venting you hear is from the BOV or Blow off valve. It prevents backpressure from slowing down the turbo charger.

Hope this helps.
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Old 09-23-2003, 02:31 PM   #13
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Default I see...

Thanks JoeT - your car is amazing, by the way. (love the color, too...)

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Old 09-23-2003, 04:14 PM   #14
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Come on guys.

I come to the Legacy forum to get away from this crap.

2000GTWagon: What they fail to mention is that the atmospheric venting blow off valve is for show only. It is heavily argued but many agree its detrimental to performance. It allows air already measured by the computer to leave the intake, the amount of fuel is still added for the escaped air.
For a vehicle that is already setup for a turbo, like nuwan's, adding this takes place of hardware that already routes the air back to the intake. In other words you spend money to have the sound with equal or LESS performance.
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Old 09-23-2003, 05:30 PM   #15
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Quote:
Originally posted by ciper
Come on guys.

I come to the Legacy forum to get away from this crap.
I come to the Legacy forum to get away from elitism.
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Old 09-23-2003, 05:35 PM   #16
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Ciper,

My car was NA and didn't have any recirc or blow off valve from the factory. So in this application it's doing what it is supposed to do. If you have an alternate way of venting excess pressure that we don't know about, please take the time and enlighten all of us here.

Also in speed density type of Engine Management, the air is not pre-metered, it uses the MAP sensor plus the Air temperature as well as other factors to determine volume of air being delivered to the system.

I'm using an Autronic SMC Ver 2.00 (pre production) ECU in my car, which does not use a "MAF" so the pre-metering arguement goes right out the window.

This forum was meant to share an experience of a bunch of Subaru owners having legal / responsible fun during a CASC sanctioned event, not to become technical. You can leave that for the Proven Power Bragging forums or the Factory forced induction forums.

You didn't need to reply if you don't like the content.

Peace...
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Old 09-23-2003, 07:52 PM   #17
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Ciper, maybe what you failed to see is that we are not constrained by MAF sensors, if we were then you would be correct. dont take any offense by this i am not trying to be a jerk, just letting you know.

now back to topic!

sweet drifting Joe! way to take out the cones.

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Old 09-23-2003, 09:21 PM   #18
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I think it was subiekid's (and PHATsuby's) post that rubbed me wrong. He didnt care how fast you went but rather how cool you sounded and wanted to sound the same.

JoeT:"Also in speed density type of Engine Management, the air is not pre-metered, ."

True

The original response was towards a legacy turbo that would have the issue I mention. Also at least three of the people that have replied to this thread have the same MAF sensor setup so?

Aftermarket recirc systems do exist, so do silent and adjustable noise level.
Why try for the unit that creates so much noise?

I was curious how much pressure the stock computer and fueling can handle, has anyone found the limit or is it primarily low boost designs?

monovich: How is it elitism? Making more sound from your vehicle doesnt make it faster. A good portion of BOV are marketed with the level and type of sound mentioned but without adequate technical detail. Did you know that some allow unfiltered air to enter the engine under idle?
Maybe this discussion belongs in dress up & style.
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Old 09-23-2003, 10:18 PM   #19
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Awesome car and awesome drifting.
Cheers
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Old 09-24-2003, 01:07 AM   #20
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i hate to prolong the argument but i must defend myself.

ciper, i dont know why my post rubbed you the wrong way, or why it would get to you so much
BUT, when i say "sounds awesome" i dont mean just the BOV, i meant the whole car sounded powerful and running well, obviously i didnt write that, but that is what i implied. and by looks great, not just his exterior looks but the performance that he was displaying, and driving skills, obviously you couldnt know this by my post original post, but now i am clarifying.

i personally didnt "try" for the noise, i just received it in my kit, i just care if it works properly or not so it doesnt wreck my turbo, i dont care if its the loudest or quietest, as long as it is working.

i dont want to speak for Joe, but he is very performance oriented so i am sure he wouldnt get a BOV for the loudest noise while hindering performance.

i dont know about the factory fuel system, i have heard it can support 6psi of boost with a RRFPR(ej25) but i dont know what that equates to in fuel pressure.

sorry to wreck the thread joe, and sorry to anyone who was offended.

how about we all learn something from this and move on, and back to the topic, drifting!

those are some sweet performing legacies there guys!!

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Old 09-24-2003, 01:21 AM   #21
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wow, i killed this with one freaking post.

ciper, i am currently working on making my car front mount intercooled, i have never seen a fmic kit with a recerc valve. also, i will be installing a tec 3 this weekend and well its not MAF based either so the MAF sensor is getting thrown out.

i think the bov/exhaust combo really makes that car threatning to other cars.

Joe T, have you gotten your car dyno'd? any ways, great car.
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Old 09-24-2003, 02:48 AM   #22
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Joe T, have you gotten your car dyno'd? any ways, great car.
OH UH, someone asked for dyno graphs! prepare yourself for the awesome power!

the last i saw Joe had more power than an STi, with peak torque around 3200rpm, vs the STi's 4000, and his torque band builds to 5000, where the STi starts to fall off at 4500.

sorry to steal your thunder Joe.

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Old 09-24-2003, 08:21 AM   #23
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Subiekid,

No worries, nobody killed anything. The videos are still up and are only 3mb each now.

Dyno Charts are on a previous post:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=335174

Phatsuby,
Yep, no bling on this Legacy, it's all go and no show. Looks just like a stock Legacy, just a little lower. That's all.

Take a look at the 92 Legacy, he does really well considering the age of the car, and it's running 14PSI on the stock fuel system, he's also replaced the original intercooler with a WRX intercooler.
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Old 09-24-2003, 12:04 PM   #24
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Take a look at the 92 Legacy, he does really well considering the age of the car, and it's running 14PSI on the stock fuel system, he's also replaced the original intercooler with a WRX intercooler
My turn...


Joe, he added the intercooler - our poor USDM turbos came without intercoolers....

Nuwan is one of the few to have added the WRX intercooler.

It is on my list too....

Still love your car... hope to see you at the next event - I have to come now after seeing the vids...
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And...


Your hood scoop is "bling" to me!
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