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Old 09-24-2003, 09:46 AM   #1
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I'm feeling bold and reckless this week, here are my picks:

1. Raikkonen
2. Ralfie
3. Barrichello
4. JPM
5. MS
6. Fernandomania
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Old 09-24-2003, 10:11 AM   #2
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1. MS
2. Barry Mellow
3. DC
4. Little Schuy
5. Chili Dog
6. The Spainsh guy
7. Davis Powers


Truly,

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Old 09-24-2003, 06:03 PM   #3
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Montoya
Kimi
MS
Ralf
Rubio
Fernandolio
DC
And, in his last ever Formula 1 race... Former World Champion Jacques Villeneuve!

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Old 09-24-2003, 11:41 PM   #4
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1. JPM
2. Schumi
3. Rubens
4. Kimi
5. Ralfie
6. DC <------ does he even exists anymore?
7. DaMatta
8. Panis
9. Marcus Vick
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Old 09-25-2003, 10:12 AM   #5
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1) Raikonnen
2) Ralfie
3) Woobins
4) JPM
5) DC
6) Webber
7) Alfonso
8) DeMatta

MS will have his engine pop on the main straight, right in front of where I'm sitting, and I'll love it!

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ps. GO KIMI!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-26-2003, 02:00 AM   #6
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[list=1][*]Montoya - If he does win, it will be one of the greatest victories of his young life![*]Schumie[*]Ralfie[*]Raikkonen[*]Barrichello[*]Coulthard[*]Trulli[*]Alonso[/list=1]Damnit, I wish I was gonna be there, haven't been since 2000... Looks like it might be wet... good racing weather!
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Old 09-26-2003, 09:16 AM   #7
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1> Juan
2> Kimi
3> Michael
4> Rubins
5> David
6> Fernando
7> Mark
8> Jenson

Something is telling me McLaren is has a final little spurt of performance up their sleve.
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Old 09-26-2003, 12:52 PM   #8
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As I always said:

Montoya will podium!

Funny what they mentioned on Speed: "Looks like a Colombia Vs Italy match when you look at the grandstands and see all them flags:

Now, Best prediction: Schumey will have a DNF
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Old 09-26-2003, 09:58 PM   #9
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1) JPM
2) Shuey
3) Alonso

Anyone notice that non-US sold cigarettes can advertise @ the USGP.




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Old 09-26-2003, 11:18 PM   #10
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Yeah, sucks!

Anyone notice how warm the tires were when it was raining that when they pitted, they would be vapor coming from them

Now, Chilli Dog had a HUGE croud. As his dad said, THIS is his home track.

Does anyone have the Flag Fred used to use all the time? It is needed here!
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Old 09-27-2003, 11:10 AM   #11
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Did anyone else other than me yell out"Why doesn't that crap happen on the race?!" when Michael's car died in the instalation lap?

I hope it does
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Old 09-27-2003, 01:21 PM   #12
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Is it gonna be televised? Like, not on speed?
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Old 09-27-2003, 03:28 PM   #13
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Question Pole Is On Which Side?

Is pole lining up on the outside or inside for turn 1?
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Old 09-27-2003, 04:57 PM   #14
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Did anyone else other than me yell out"Why doesn't that crap happen on the race?!" when Michael's car died in the instalation lap?

I hope it does
It's a ploy Leo...he just does it to let Minardi think they'll do better than they actually do.

GO JPM


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Old 09-27-2003, 08:59 PM   #15
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Is pole lining up on the outside or inside for turn 1?
Pardon me for answering my own question... but I found a url which indicates that pole is on the outside... don't know how accurate it is, however!
http://f1.racing-live.com/en/season/live/grille.html
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Old 09-27-2003, 09:15 PM   #16
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Panis in #3 spot? Nice!

Rootin for Kimi, maybe he can pull off the championship.
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Old 09-27-2003, 10:05 PM   #17
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am I the only one that wants Schuey to win!? Ferrari has historically done well at Indy, and if it rains, I believe that plays more into Micheal's hands. Like some people are speculating, McLaren and Toyota might be running on low fuel which would limit their pit-fueling strategies should something come up.

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Old 09-27-2003, 10:48 PM   #18
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I just got home. It was pretty wild in the main grandstands accross from the pits of Montoya during todays qualifying. Thier were more colombians than any country spectating, including americans(only a slight exageration). Whenever Schuey was shown on the screens they all booed Was kinda funny tho.

I am suprised at MS's lack of competitive times. He had the highest top speed. I was watching on the last corner leading onto the main staright and both red cars took that corner in 4th gear, everyone else was in 3rd. Maybe MS tried less down force only to have gone too far. I dunno?

Also the sound of the Jags engine management traction control sounds very different than everyone elses. very funny buzzy/screaming sound with the pitch varrying up and down quickly. Quite odd sounding. Maybe they are cutting out a lower number of cyclinders and using some clutch slipping which would explain the varrying pitch.


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Old 09-27-2003, 11:06 PM   #19
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Man, i sure hope J.uant P.lenty M.ore chilidogs can pull out the win. I will puke if Kimi wins and both Mikey and C'Dog dnf.


Maybe Mikey has mucho fuel on board, we'll see. And maybe the Ferrari idea of having less downforce will be a good race setup. They can rip down the main straight and be able to pass into turn one. They might be slow around the infield but, not slow enough to be passed.

Should be a good race.

and... at least D.umpy C.rudface still bites.

GO Williams!!! Go JPM.

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Old 09-28-2003, 02:55 AM   #20
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I just got home. It was pretty wild in the main grandstands...
Cool report! That must have been interesting in the stands... I wonder what Ford and Cosworth are doing in that jag race car...

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Go chilidog
Yeah!! Go Chilidog!!
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Old 09-29-2003, 12:25 PM   #21
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Thumbs down Indy Race Stewards Decide F1 Championships

I don't think that F1 race stewards should be deciding championships on incidents where two competitors tangle, and blame can be shared between competitors.

If you want to place blame for Barrichello and Montoya's lap 3 racing incident, like so many other racing incidents, it is easy to realize that it was a fuzzy gray area of varying degrees of blame, depending upon which driver's viewpoint you view it from.

But the race stewards should not be penalizing drivers over race incidents of shared blame. When the blame game is in an area which is too gray, stewards should always back away. Such incidents are, as the nascar drivers like to say, "...just wunna dem dair racin' deals".

But instead, the Indy race stewards jumped in with both feet, and have effectively become the 21st competitor of the U.S. Grand Prix. And now we are to ask these questions:

Who are these race stewards?

Are they supposed to be impartial?

How did they did they obtain their responsibilty of F1 race steward?

What are the criteria they use for their actions?

Can they be penalized?

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Old 09-29-2003, 12:35 PM   #22
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I got back from the race a few hour ago...GREAT RACE. Not a good race for anyone I wanted (JPM, Webber/Jaguar) but I still had a great time. I was in turn 9 and 10...watching Schmui try and push JPM off the road into turn 9, JPM not having any of it and pushing through into turn 10 was amazing. I'll have a better report later tonight after I get some more sleep :-P
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Old 09-29-2003, 02:00 PM   #23
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Frustrating!

Not a great race but an eventfull race. Just to many pit strategy mistakes and poor driving to make it a geat race.

The big looser between Rubins and JPM's contact was JPM. Who says RB did not help the situation abit. How ever this seems out of character for RB so that may not be the case. But the penalty as OTG pointed out was uncalled for. It ws a 50/50 race incident. Grrrrr.
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We sat on the grass at turn 9 and it was a great place to be. I saw the Jordan bust up its front wing right in front of us and MS and JPM make a little contact into 10 as JPM forced his way by. I saw RS back it into the wall in 8 and countless other drivers going over the grass when the rain started falling. I've been there for all the races since '00 and this was by far the most action that I got to see yet. I can't wait until next year!

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Old 09-29-2003, 03:09 PM   #25
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Funny how I had just got finished praising Montoya for showing such good self control in Monza, then he goes and does this. The replays show JPM hitting RB's rear tire. That doesn't strike me as a racing incident, it is punting a driver off.

Either way JPM did it to himself because he played the wrong game. What he should have done was realize that his chances lay in staying out of trouble. Just as easily he could have damaged his own car and DNF'd. Instead it was the Stewarts who made him pay. Were they right, were they wrong? It doesn't matter… don't put yourself in that situation, and it won't happen.

On the converse, look at Michael Schumacher: when the first rain storm came he noticibly backed off the pace and stayed out of trouble. JPM and others blew past and he was down to 6th. He played it safe and the race came to him. None of which would have been possible if he got wrapped up in a foolish battle for position early in the race.

It's a shame JPM's bid came to a close because he drove really well this year, but in the end I firmly believe he was let down by his Achilles heal, which he must learn to overcome if he wants to be the Champ.

As for the rest of the race, I was a thrill to see Jenson running out front!!! Way to go! Too bad it didn’t last, and damn, just when I though Honda had their reliability bugs worked out. Otherwise there was really good action through most of the race.

I knew McLaren had a little something left and if it weren’t for the weather I think Kimi would have won the race and we’d have a much different championship picture. As it is now, as much of a shoe in as MS looks, something worries me about Kimi still being mathematically alive…. I think we might see something very unexpected in Suzuka.

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