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Old 09-25-2003, 09:42 AM   #1
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Default Intermittent CLINK coming from tranny, linkage... something?

Can anyone guess why? If my windows are open, when I'm shifting from 1st to 2nd... sometimes into reverse, I hear this loud CLINK. Not a clunk, a clink. Could it be linkage related? When I went in for my last oil change, they said they COULD NOT DUPLICATE THE NOISE... (not sure why they just couldn't look under there and see if all looked right...) Actually, my tranny seems very noisy... while parked, I can HEAR it when I shift into reverse or 1st... is this how all your cars are?

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Old 09-26-2003, 12:13 AM   #2
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Can anyone guess why? If my windows are open, when I'm shifting from 1st to 2nd... sometimes into reverse, I hear this loud CLINK. Not a clunk, a clink. Could it be linkage related? When I went in for my last oil change, they said they COULD NOT DUPLICATE THE NOISE... (not sure why they just couldn't look under there and see if all looked right...) Actually, my tranny seems very noisy... while parked, I can HEAR it when I shift into reverse or 1st... is this how all your cars are?

Thanks again.
Lisa
Auto or Manual? - assuming Auto

Not sure on the 1st to 2nd clink, but yeah mine's "noisy" --not a bad noisy though, usual Auto tranny noise-- when I'm parked and shift, you can hear the tranny do it's thing (especially in the garage). Do you feel anything when shifting that's feels rough? Also, when's the last time you had your tranny fluid changed?


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Old 09-26-2003, 12:39 AM   #3
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your name says 5 speed, is it when its cold, hot, all the time?


on a 5 speed having the fluid changed is a sinch. i bet your could do it if youhave a floor jack and some wrenches, first thing to do would be to get that fluid replaced. then if you still have the sound you can go from their.

also, is it like a ping noise?

call your dealer and ask how much they want for chaning the trany fluid, it should not be more then 40 bucks.

is it from the trany or the rear end?
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Old 09-26-2003, 04:43 PM   #4
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Yes, it is a 5 spd, MANUAL trans. It happens whenever it wants... cold... hot... it doesn't matter. The car only has 22K on it, but I did just go through the replacement of all the clutch parts for the shudder issue I was having since I bought it, with 17K... It's not a pink, it's a CLINK... not sure how to better describe it... not a ping like an engine ping... a clink, like a linkage sound... and it's coming from the tranny, just below the center console area... not the rear end.

Hmmm.
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Old 09-26-2003, 07:28 PM   #5
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did subaru do your clutch swap? i would call them, best to catch problems before they spread. tranys can make funky noises when they are low on fluid. mine was making funky noises when it was low on fluid after my motor swap.
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Old 10-02-2003, 02:53 PM   #6
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kinda late, but is the sound coming from the rear of the car? it could be your diff stabilizer cross member, IF it got bent somehow (ie using it as a contact point while jacking your car up... causes it to bend, and make a metal to metal contact point; i know, that's what happened to me)...
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Old 10-04-2003, 03:25 PM   #7
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Hi Lisa,

Just got back from 12 days in Japan, getting caught upon on back forum posts and caught up with your's. What you're describing sounds like the sound a shift fork makes as it works the gearsets back and forth inside the transmission itself. It was mentioned previously that low fluid will amplify this and in time it will get worse as the "parts" wear from reduced lubrication. As a general maintenance practice, I change out my tranny fluid at 10,000 mile intervals and use Redline Synthetic(See this link) as replacement fluid. While you're changing out your fluid, look for signs of leaks around the front, rear and axle joint ends too, especially if the fluid is low.

Alternatively, it could just be the linkage itself just needs a good lube and is "binding/catching" enough to cause the sound you're mentioning. You've had a lot of wet weather recently and this tends to reduce the lube on the linkage, especially if you're driving a lot in hard rain or on roads with a lot of water remaining. Just a thought to check out.

I believe you can check out "where" the noise is coming from without running the engine if it's either of the two areas mentioned above. You'll need two people to check it though. Check your transmission fluid levels before doing this to make sure that that's not a causal factors. Then, jack up the front of the car and put it on jack stands, or drive it up on ramps, set the e-brake and block the rear wheels. Allow the exhaust system to cool down for a while so you don't burn yourself.

With your helper sitting in the driver's seat, climb under the car and then have the driver/helper shift through the gears using the clutch. Listen for the sounds you describe and isolate them to their area, i.e., linkage, transmission, etc. If you don't hear the sound then you'll know that you'll need to get the car up on a lift for the next portion - running it through the gears with the engine running.

Just follow the same process as before, listening for the noise and isolating it to the component(s). Once you've done that, you can figure out whether it's something that you need to take up with the dealer or whether it's just a normal "noise". If you do take it up with the dealer, at least you'll know how to replicate it.

There are two other possibilities and they are either the throw out bearing linkage is "snapping" with clutch engagement/disengagement or the center differential is clinking. The first is usually due to an incorrect TOB install and the latter is usually caused by low fluid. My gut feeling is that it's your transmission linkage or fork shifter/gearset clink.

Keep us posted.

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Old 10-17-2003, 09:35 PM   #8
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Where in Japan did you go dale? For business, or pleasure? I'm interested because I AM 1/2 Japanese! Well, I hope you had some good food, mmmm.

My car has an appt to go in to the shop next Thursday for my various problems... (got quite a list going!) I will post when it's back. Wish me luck. In the meantime, I'll print out your post and take it to the svc. dept. Think that will upset them?

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Old 10-18-2003, 08:54 PM   #9
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I am almost positive I know what you're talking about, because my car does it. It's not especially loud, it just sounds like, well, like he said, a CLINK.

It's never bothered me, and I actually kind of like it. Mostly happens when I shift into reverse.
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Where in Japan did you go dale? For business, or pleasure? I'm interested because I AM 1/2 Japanese! Well, I hope you had some good food, mmmm.
I was in Okinawa Prefecture on business. The very last day was tourist time. Too busy the rest of the time but the food was takusan oiishi ! 26 hours of travel from push back at the airport until arrival back in SoCal.

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My car has an appt to go in to the shop next Thursday for my various problems... (got quite a list going!) I will post when it's back. Wish me luck. In the meantime, I'll print out your post and take it to the svc. dept. Think that will upset them?

Cheers ~
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Good luck and let us know how it all comes out. Kyo suketinei (sp)

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