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Old 09-26-2003, 08:09 PM   #1
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Default Help w/install of aftermarket heated seat inserts

I got this kit off e-bay. The guy seems to sell them over and over so if anyone else is interested, they're going for $25-$45 or so last time I checked. Unfortunately, the kit does not come with instructions and the seller is not helpful with questions on that. So, if anyone could help with 1 specific question or with any suggestions, that would rock. Here's the main wire harness....looks relatively simple. Has ground, power, fuses, switches



Here's where I'm confused though. The other wire harness which seems to be mainly for the rear seats has hookups for switches and ground, but also for battery, keyed hot, constant, and there's 3 larger plugs that I have no idea what they're for. Looks as though 1 of the rear pad's plugs could go into the harness, but then what about the other one? Any ideas on that? Here's the pic...



Also, it doesn't seem like the heat pads were sized and cut for my seats -- do you think I can just cut them myself?



Thanks for any help guys...

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Old 09-27-2003, 01:59 PM   #2
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Did you get heaters for the front and rear or just the front? Unless you have 8 of those white heaters you only have enough for the front seats because it takes 2 heaters per seat, one for the back, and one for the seat cushion.

the one that you have question marks above looks like the relay that plugs into the back of the switch, check it out and see but that is my guess.

yes you can just cut it to size, but only width wise, if you cut length wise you will cut the circuit and they wont heat above where you cut.

so, only cut

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hope that helps some, i can try and help as much as possible, i installed my heaters as well so feel free to ask more questions

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Old 09-28-2003, 08:21 PM   #3
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Yeah it has a total of 8 heat pads

The ??? marks are for the 3 relays or whatever. 1 coming from each of the rear seat pads w/ female connectors and 1 on the harness w/male. So it doesn't add up.

Another strange thing is that the smaller wire harness doesn't seem to hook up to the bigger harness so I don't know why it's even necessary except for that 1 big relay that seems to go into 1 of the rear seat pads. Argh

So did you get an OEM kit or an aftermarket. Did it look anything like this wiring job?

Thanks for your help - if my rambling doesn't make any sense, I can take more detailed pictures. Just let me know. Thanks (-:

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Old 09-28-2003, 10:07 PM   #4
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i had an aftermarket kit, the heaters look identical but the wiring does not. I am trying to remember correctly but all i had to connect was the 2 connectors from each heater pad, then an ignition switched power, a ground and i beleive that was it, and just put the fuse in between the power wire. that was for each seat so i had to do it twice.

yea those 2 big ring terminals for power and ground i dont know about, are the rears getting their power from the front seats or hooked up separately?

yea, if you could take a few more pics i could try and help out a bit more. sorry about that.

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Old 10-18-2003, 11:31 AM   #5
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i picked up a set of these also however when i got the seat cover completely off i found that the fronts at least had factory seat heater pads already installed.. however its a 3 wire system not a 2 wire like the ones i bought.. i figure i should just use the factory ones with the new wiring.. but i can't find any information about these factory seat heaters in my manual - i have a 99 2.5 GT limited 30th aniversay sedan
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Old 10-19-2003, 11:15 PM   #6
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after examining further i found that the factory heater was only on the bottom of the seat, and only had one heat element line zagging through the felt.. inferior to the design in the new ones i got off ebay.. i have installed all the seat heaters bottom and back in the front and rear seats.. wiring in the center consol with the front switched left of the e-brake handle and the rear switches hidden in the ash tray (don't smoke and don't want people using the ashtray anyways, plus it hides it from kids that want to know what that button does)
all i have left to do is find a good location to pull a 12V power from the battery and a place to splice into a keyed "ON" line.. this activates the relay sending power to the seat heater switches.. another day or two and i'll be posting about having a hot a$$
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Old 10-20-2003, 03:49 AM   #7
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How exactly did you install the heated seats? Did you sew them in? How did you go about sewing them in? Along the edges, or some design? Also did you just pull the seats apart and put them in there or did you get new seat covers and have them put in there?
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Old 10-20-2003, 08:04 PM   #8
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Kohburn: Strange, I didn't think the GT had heated seats as an option. Thought it was only the Outback version. I'm pretty sure mine did not have pads already on and I definately didn't see any wires. I also have the 99 GT Limited.

How did you get the Key On line in? Did yours come with that? Right now, my power is coming straight from the battery and I've now drained my battery 4 times by forgetting to turn off the seat warmers. I'm not sure what I can connect the Power line into to make it so it will turn off when the key is out, but also pull enough power. I'm not too familiar with electronics /-: Any recommendations?

Also, I was wondering if you've experienced this too: lately it's been a little warm around here and it seems my seats are warmer than normal. Almost like the heat pads are insulating heat or not letting the leather breathe?? Maybe I'm just trippin'...

Thawa: The kit came with tape that you just simply align the heat pads and then tape them down. I pulled my leather off to do it. Actually I didn't pull it completely off, just took enough of the clips off so I could slide the pads in. It wasn't too difficult, but did take me awhile. I also found like $5 in change wedged between my driver seat railing and the carpet (-:

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Old 10-20-2003, 08:23 PM   #9
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you guys need an ignition switched power right? why not just take it off of the cigarette lighter? that is an ignition switched power source, so just splice into the connector on the back of the lighter and there you go.

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Old 10-21-2003, 12:17 AM   #10
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Thawa: The kit came with tape that you just simply align the heat pads and then tape them down. I pulled my leather off to do it. Actually I didn't pull it completely off, just took enough of the clips off so I could slide the pads in. It wasn't too difficult, but did take me awhile. I also found like $5 in change wedged between my driver seat railing and the carpet (-:

-Rick H
So you just removed the seats and the leather was easy to pull up? I don't quite understand how seats work. My thoughts were they were always sewn into the padding they were placed upon. Or are they just stretched over the padding?
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Old 10-21-2003, 02:01 AM   #11
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stretched and hooked. very easy to get off.
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Old 10-21-2003, 10:19 AM   #12
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cool thanks for the info everyone
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Old 10-24-2003, 05:50 PM   #13
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Who was the seller? I'd like to install them too, just driver and passenger though

Drop me an email at gregab00@yahoo.com or gregab00 on AIM
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Old 10-25-2003, 03:50 PM   #14
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if anyone figures this mess out, some step by step instructions and pics would be much appreciated.
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Old 10-25-2003, 11:24 PM   #15
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how safe are these things? they won't burst into flames and make me run for the nearest snowbank would they?
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Old 10-27-2003, 07:37 PM   #16
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Kohburn: Strange, I didn't think the GT had heated seats as an option. Thought it was only the Outback version. I'm pretty sure mine did not have pads already on and I definately didn't see any wires. I also have the 99 GT Limited.
yeah, my only guess is the 30th aniversary model? not important.

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How did you get the Key On line in? Did yours come with that? Right now, my power is coming straight from the battery and I've now drained my battery 4 times by forgetting to turn off the seat warmers. I'm not sure what I can connect the Power line into to make it so it will turn off when the key is out, but also pull enough power. I'm not too familiar with electronics /-: Any recommendations?


need to pick up a 12v relay - rated for 45+ amps.. mine has a 45 amp fuse from the battery power line tot he relay.. power from relay to seat heaters.. a "key-on" line tot he relay and a ground line.. this way the key on line throws the relay allowing power to run from the battery to the seat heaters.. one easy way to find a relay is to use one from headlights..

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Also, I was wondering if you've experienced this too: lately it's been a little warm around here and it seems my seats are warmer than normal. Almost like the heat pads are insulating heat or not letting the leather breathe?? Maybe I'm just trippin'...

Thawa: The kit came with tape that you just simply align the heat pads and then tape them down. I pulled my leather off to do it. Actually I didn't pull it completely off, just took enough of the clips off so I could slide the pads in. It wasn't too difficult, but did take me awhile. I also found like $5 in change wedged between my driver seat railing and the carpet (-:
-Rick H
i too found this change deal.. and i think the warm seat thing i in your imagination.. or you forgot to turn it off again.
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