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Old 09-28-2000, 06:55 PM   #1
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Post RS Fog Lights - Go off with High Beams

Hi all,
Has anyone figured out how to prevent the fog lights on the RS from going off when you switch to high beams?
Right now the fog lights can only be used with low beams...and not with parking lights or high beams.

Just curious.

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Old 09-28-2000, 06:56 PM   #2
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off of the main page you can go to the mods section and find the proceedure to fix that little condition..
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Old 09-28-2000, 07:06 PM   #3
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You have to ground a wire from the fog light plug to get it to do it. I've got it done with mine. I think the only side-effect is that the regular headlights stay on with the brights.
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Old 09-29-2000, 01:50 AM   #4
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You're only supposed to use them in fog, when high beams are ineffective. I, for one am tired of people who leave tham on all the time - you don't look cool, you look like every soccer mom in her SUV who doesn't even know where the fog light switch is! (In fact, I'm pretty sure most of them don't even know they HAVE fog lights!)

TURN THEM OFF AND DRIVE!
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Old 09-29-2000, 04:01 AM   #5
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8 complex

what do you mean? i read the modification but havn't done it yet. so how do you run your fogs with out other lights but yet have them turn off when you turn off the key?? is there a way.

pm me will you? thanx

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to each their own. i payed almost 20K for those soccer mom fog lights so i will drive with them on. to each their own buddy.

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Old 09-29-2000, 04:08 AM   #6
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1) The fog light mod does involve a wire being spliced from the dash-switch for the fogs and it has to be connected to a black wire on the cruise control switch (ground I believe) I can get you instructions or if you do a search you will probably find it. Thats how I did. Is it a MY00? If so, I can look at mine and tell you the exact wire. I think the instructions I found may not have been right for my car.

2) The low beams do not stay on with highs when you do this mod. You only alter the fog light switch, not the low/high switch.

3) I would hate for people to use fogs all the time, too. However, I re-aimed mine so they are more effective "driving" lights (I dont get that much fog around here). The fogs are aimed Perfectly so that there are no weak spots in my vision in front of the car. I HIGHLY recommend re-aiming fogs with this modification. They only need to go up a little bit and it will be daytime in front of your car with highs on. I love it! and this mod didnt cost me a thing!

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Old 09-29-2000, 05:56 AM   #7
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BugBomb, if you could post what wire it is exactly, that would be much appreciated.

I use the foglights when I want to be noticed in the day/dusk/dawn, like on a rural 1 lane highway where it's all over for you & your Subie if somebody doesn't notice you. At night however, I shut them off since they really don't do much except light up a few feet in front of your car (and yes, I did aim them up) and blind oncoming traffic.
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Old 09-29-2000, 06:58 AM   #8
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The mod that allows the fogs to be used independent of the low or high beams is very valuable here in snow country. The purpose is to send out a low, flat beam of light that doesnt reflect off the water droplets or snowflakes and into the drivers eyes.
That's why in stock mode they turn off when you go to high beams. Because you wouldn't use the high beams in foggy/snowing conditions either. If you're just 'styling' then having the fogs on with the high beams is okay, but that's not why they're on the car.
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Old 09-29-2000, 07:24 AM   #9
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Some states it's not legal to have the fog lamps on with the high beams. Actually high beams on in the fog will just bounce the light back to you and make it harder to see. Also driving lights are not legal with low beams in the same states from what I understand.

Myself I only use the fog lamps in bad weather.
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Old 09-29-2000, 07:27 AM   #10
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Ok, I did a search & people are saying that the foglight mod in the Mods section will work on our cars, but some people seem to be saying that I can just ground the fog switch to the cruise switch? That seems to be a lot easier, but does it work?
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Old 09-29-2000, 07:31 AM   #11
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It does work (grounding fog light switch to cruise switch) but you better get the right wire. There are a lot of wires on the fog light switch. I will have to check which one it is when I get home tonight.
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Old 09-29-2000, 07:32 AM   #12
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Thanks, that would be great!
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Old 09-29-2000, 08:50 AM   #13
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I drive with my fog lights on, its alittle bit for looks. But more for the fact it makes my car more visible to other drivers.

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Old 09-29-2000, 09:23 AM   #14
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I believe you ground pin #5 on the fog light switch. It's a yellow/blue wire (but there are two on the fog light plug so don't just pick one!). It took me some experimentation and a couple of pins (yeah like pins that stick you when you buy a new shirt - I used them to jumper the wires without cutting or anything to figure out which it was for sure).

The fog light mod on the Modifications section just keeps them on with your parking lights, but they still go off when you turn on your brights. The mod I did above prevents that.

Honestly, this is all I remember about doing it. I need to do it on another car and document it eventually.

BTW, I drive with my fog lights off because I don't stand out of the crowd as much (less times getting pulled over). When I DO need light though, I flip on the fogs and nail the brights... 6 lights on at once, both normal, both brights, both fogs (the fog light mod I did causes both the normals and brights to stay on at the same time... no clue why).
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Old 09-29-2000, 09:45 AM   #15
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8Complex is right about the wire. I dont know if mine was on #5 but I will still check tonight. Its weird that your lows stay on as well. I know mine go off because I can pull the lever between the low and high settings and make both highs and lows come on at the same time. When I push it back to just high, I see the lows turn off. While experimenting with the fog-light switch, my brother found that many of the wires going to it did strange things. The wiring is just wacky.
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Old 09-29-2000, 09:56 AM   #16
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8Complex & BugBomb,
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Old 09-29-2000, 11:57 AM   #17
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Well, I tried hooking the black wire from the fog switch to almost every terminal in the cruise switch... until sparks started to fly... now no more cruise/ABS...
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Old 09-29-2000, 03:00 PM   #18
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Ridin,
You should have waited!!! I told you I would post the actual operation. Now you have to go back to the dealership and pay to have that fixed out of warranty. Maybe you got lucky and only blew some fuses, did you check?

Disclaimer:
Electrical work will void your warranty. You must also insulate any bare wires so they do not touch anything else. I take no responsibilty if you screw your car up doing this mod.


Here is what I did:
1)Remove the lower dashboard panel on the driver's side. There is a plastic button-clip on the left side where the door closes and two philips-head screws on the bottom of the panel.
2)Splice the blue and yellow wire pictured below to the black wire on the cruise switch (also pictured below). You can get extra wires or just cut them. Its up to you. Note the cut wire towards the top of the second pic.
3)Insulate the bare wires and put it all back together (check to make sure it works properly before re-assembling).



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Old 09-29-2000, 03:45 PM   #19
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Oh, I get it now, I spliced the black wire from the fog switch to the blue & yellow on the cruise switch, dammit... hmm, there's still enough light out now, time to run back outside!

& it was the fuse, I guess that's why there's a box of 15A fuses in my glove compartment.

Thanks!!!

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Old 09-29-2000, 03:55 PM   #20
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Cool, I have to try that out--what does it do? Let you turn on the fog lights any time you want? With parking/low/high? Or just with low/high?

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Old 09-29-2000, 04:04 PM   #21
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Ok, did that mod... now my lights don't flash when i remote lock/unlock the car and the fogs don't work with just the parking light, although they do work with the high beams. Help!
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Old 09-29-2000, 04:08 PM   #22
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Oh wait, do I need to do what's shown in the Mods section to get the fogs with the parking lights? Or is that a MY99 only...
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Old 09-29-2000, 06:00 PM   #23
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I dont think anyone has tried to get fogs to work with highs, lows, and parking lights. This mod is ONLY, I repeat, ONLY to get fog lights with high or low beams. No parking lights+fogs. You will have to figure that one out cause I have no clue.
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Old 09-29-2000, 08:18 PM   #24
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Hmmmmm... I think I didn't cut the Yellow/Blue wire (which is the correct notation of wiring colors BTW... main color first, then stripe), I think I just jumpered the two. Now I'll have to look at it again and make real sure that my reg. beams stay on with my high beams...
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Old 09-29-2000, 08:22 PM   #25
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Anybody know why my parking lights don't flash when I unlock the doors?

Edit: Figured it out... blew the Illumination fuse to hell. Must've happened when I was playing Let's See What This Wire Does.

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